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<body> <div id="header"> <span class="left"> <span class="back"><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT"><span class="image mobile_back" title="Back"></span></a></span> <span class="image mobile_logo" title="Beehive Forum Logo"></span> </span> <ul> <li> <a class="reply_all" href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42159.0&return_msg=42159.1"> <span class="image mobile_reply_all"></span><span class="text">Reply to All</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="navigation" href="#"> <span class="image mobile_navigation"></span><span class="text">Show messages</span> </a> </li> <li> <a class="main" href="#"><span class="image mobile_menu" title="Menu"></span> </a> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu main"> <ul> <li><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Messages</a></li> <li><a href="lpm.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Inbox</a></li> <li><a href="lsearch.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Search</a></li> <li><a href="llogon.php?webtag=DEFAULT">Login</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="menu navigation"><a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.1">1–9</a></div> <div id="page_content"> <h3 class="thread_title"><a href="index.php?webtag=DEFAULT&amp;msg=42159.1">Fire Walk With Me (1992)</a> </h3> <div id="messages" data-navigation="42159_1_9_10"> <a name="a42159_1"></a><div class="message" id="message_42159_1"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">18 Apr 2018 15:04</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">1 of 9</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.1">42159.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Far less shocking now than its 1992 debut, the characters sadness and torment shine through, without the 'New Age' hokum of the series.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 18 Apr 2018 15:05 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42159.1&return_msg=42159.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42159.1"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42159_2"></a><div class="message" id="message_42159_2"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">19 Apr 2018 06:55</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 19 Apr 2018 09:27"></span></span> <span class="message_count">2 of 9</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.2">42159.2</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.1#a42159_1" target="_self">42159.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> When we pigged our way through both series recently, we didn't watch FWWM. Saw it years ago but I can't really remember much. Still annoyed by the wilfully obscure ending of the last series.<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 19 Apr 2018 06:56 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42159.2&return_msg=42159.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42159.2"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42159_3"></a><div class="message" id="message_42159_3"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">25 Aug 2022 13:32</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: ALL<span class="message_count">3 of 9</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.3">42159.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Re-watched this again (2nd or 3rd time), this time on the big(ger) little screen, the Criterion version. I found the ending somewhat unrecognizable, with (apparently to me) new scenes inserted, considerably changing my view of the film. An un-Lynchian wallowing in bathos eclipsed his usual, bizarrely anodyne treatments of emotionally-charged material.<br /> <br /> The wikipedia entry makes no mention of diverse edits in distribution, but I'm pretty sure this one<em> is </em>different, even allowing for the cumulative degradations of elective alzheimers.<br /> <br /> Hmm.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42159.3&return_msg=42159.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42159.3"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42159_4"></a><div class="message" id="message_42159_4"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: william (WILLIAMA)<span class="message_time">26 Aug 2022 10:49</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Aug 2022 14:29"></span></span> <span class="message_count">4 of 9</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.4">42159.4</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.1#a42159_3" target="_self">42159.3</a></div> <div class="message_body"> Well, I've only ever seen* the version included with the "Entire Mystery" blu-ray release and apparently a fresh 4K scan was done for this, with Lynch's approval. It's this very same scan that Criterion licensed for their release. Apparently it's identical, other than that they've also issued a UHD (4K) version.<br /> <br /> Apart from this, and a couple of dubbed versions, the only alternative in the wild is (according to IMDB) an "unofficially released extended cut of the film titled 'Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - The Extended Blue Rose Cut' which restores an hour of deleted footage formerly only found as bonus content on previous releases. This edition of the movie has a 196-minute runtime."<br /> <br /> I can knock up a copy of what I have and post it somewhere you can see if you're interested in a comparison.<br /> <br /> Edit: not true. I did watch it years and years ago, but didn't remember much when I watched my current version (which was when I put it on Plex).<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 26 Aug 2022 11:01 by WILLIAMA</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42159.4&return_msg=42159.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42159.4"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42159_5"></a><div class="message" id="message_42159_5"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">26 Aug 2022 14:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: william (WILLIAMA) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 26 Aug 2022 14:44"></span></span> <span class="message_count">5 of 9</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.5">42159.5</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.1#a42159_4" target="_self">42159.4</a></div> <div class="message_body"> The deleted footage was included on a second dvd in the Criterion pack (which we didn't watch, another day perhaps), and the wikipedia entry includes a lengthy explanation of the whys and wherefores, such as theatres not welcoming a 5-hour show runtime, and thus a lot of the humorous characters featured in the series got all cut so we could watch many long minutes of Laura Palmer & a few of her closest friends blubbering in close up. Also KM got stroppy over 'typecasting', ultimately to no avail ...<div class="edit_text">EDITED: 26 Aug 2022 14:37 by DSMITHHFX</div> </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42159.5&return_msg=42159.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42159.5"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42159_6"></a><div class="message" id="message_42159_6"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time">26 Aug 2022 20:47</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Aug 2022 00:32"></span></span> <span class="message_count">6 of 9</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.6">42159.6</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.1#a42159_1" target="_self">42159.1</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I thought the second series of Twin Peaks (despite some good bits) damaged the integrity of the first series. For me, the first series was complete, if unsatisfying. And - again, for me - FWWM compounded that damage.<br /> <br /> My beef with mainstream-media-paid Lynch is that he opens with all the indicators of a post-modern film noir thriller, then doesn't deliver on that promise. </div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42159.6&return_msg=42159.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42159.6"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42159_7"></a><div class="message" id="message_42159_7"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">27 Aug 2022 00:37</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Aug 2022 08:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">7 of 9</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.7">42159.7</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.1#a42159_6" target="_self">42159.6</a></div> <div class="message_body"> According to the wikipedia, the original plan was to make three Twin Peaks films but the studio, sensing slackening public infatuation, pulled the plug. So the fault was, as usual, very much a team effort.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42159.7&return_msg=42159.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42159.7"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42159_8"></a><div class="message" id="message_42159_8"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: Manthorp<span class="message_time">27 Aug 2022 08:57</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 27 Aug 2022 09:50"></span></span> <span class="message_count">8 of 9</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.8">42159.8</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.1#a42159_7" target="_self">42159.7</a></div> <div class="message_body"> That's interesting. Hard to see where a third film would have fit.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42159.8&return_msg=42159.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42159.8"> <span class="rating">0/0</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div><a name="a42159_9"></a><div class="message" id="message_42159_9"> <div class="message_header"> <div class="message_from"> From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)<span class="message_time">12 Sep 2022 15:40</span> <div class="clearer"></div> </div><div class="message_to">To: Manthorp <span><span class="image post_read" title="Read: 13 Sep 2022 08:56"></span></span> <span class="message_count">9 of 9</span><div class="clearer"></div> </div> </div> <div class="message_links"> <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.9">42159.9</a> In reply to <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=DEFAULT&msg=42159.1#a42159_8" target="_self">42159.8</a></div> <div class="message_body"> I think the original plan was to capitalize (literally) on Lynch's expansive vision, but lack of prospective punters caused a hard reset.</div> <div class="message_footer"> <div class="message_footer_links"><a href="lpost.php?webtag=DEFAULT&reply_to=42159.9&return_msg=42159.1" class="reply"><span class="image post"></span>Reply</a></div> <div class="message_vote_form" data-msg="42159.9"> <span class="rating">+1/1</span> <span class="image vote vote_down vote_down_off" title="Vote Down"></span> <span class="image vote vote_up vote_up_off" title="Vote Up"></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </body>