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 From:  andy   5 May 2020 12:18 
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)      41 of 183 
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 From:  Mikee   6 May 2020 10:13 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS       42 of 183 
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Principal Software Engineer for large betting company.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS    6 May 2020 10:42 
 To:  andy      43 of 183 
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Doesn't surprise me that someone on here has ended up with a job at Facebook.

I'll always have mixed feelings about Facebook and the related empire. I find how much control they have (or can be harnessed) as very worrying.

I've always generally been fairly comfortable with my data being the currency. Will I pay cash money for access to a social network? Nope. And at the end of the day things cost money to run.

Facebook were right place, right time and got the critical mass to make them dominate the market.

I'd say my biggest issue was them buying Instagram and WhatsApp.
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 From:  milko   6 May 2020 16:08 
 To:  Mikee      44 of 183 
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Is it in Leeds by any chance? I visited them a year or so ago.
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 From:  Mikee   6 May 2020 16:18 
 To:  milko      45 of 183 
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Yeah - Sky Bet. Both William Hill and Sky Bet are in Leeds.
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 From:  milko   6 May 2020 16:28 
 To:  Mikee      46 of 183 
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oh, so they are too. It's only Sky Bet I've visited but I've worked with both over the years. I don't suppose you mix much with the sponsorship team but it's that lot I deal with. More or less evil than Facebook, since we're talking about it? Sport means I indirectly work with so much bad stuff I'm sure.

One of your dev colleagues is the brother of a motion designer I worked with until he cycled all the way to New Zealand to escape us. Small world/Big world in one sentence!
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS    6 May 2020 16:34 
 To:  Mikee     milko      47 of 183 
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Funny you should mention small worlds.

I'm sure Mikee occasionally pops up on my Facebook because he knows or has some connection with someone I lived with in uni halls.
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 From:  Mikee   6 May 2020 16:45 
 To:  milko      48 of 183 
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Yeah.. I don't know much about that part of the business. There's a couple of thousand of us - so although I've been there for over 3 years, there's still whole departments where I don't know a single person or wouldn't recognise them to look at.

I don't think we're evil - certainly never see it. I'm not exposed to the whole business though.

Bit of a weird time for us at the moment - Cheltenham was busy, then immediately after that pretty much every event was cancelled and it's been completely dead since. On top of that, we merged with Paddy Power/Bet Fair in the past couple of days.

Really hoping football starts up again soon so I can feel a bit less anxious about job security.
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 From:  milko   6 May 2020 17:29 
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With the evil I just mean the whole encouraging people to gamble thing really, and the advertising of it. It's not exactly selling land mines to dictators, but still.

Anyway, yes, the football and job security. Very very very much so indeed. The Hundred and NFL having things cancelled for this year has put a large enough hole in my employer's income already. On the other hand, not dying of awful virus, I suppose! But given our lovely tory overlords make noises about cutting furlough already, things don't exactly look great.
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 From:  Mikee   6 May 2020 18:47 
 To:  milko      50 of 183 
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All internal communications are very much about trying to make sure we're leading the way when it comes to safer gambling, and I know they invest heavily in it - but on the other hand they have to advertise to stay in the competition. It's not really something I have much involvement in at all, nor want to.. sounds like a nightmare.

We've not used the furlough scheme, presumably because of the bad optics of a gambling company using tax payers money to keep people employed. I imagine they've got another couple of months of full employment left until they have to start making some big decisions if sports haven't properly started returning.

Each day there's noises about some leagues coming back, so hopefully I'll be able to stop holding my breath soon.
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 From:  milko   6 May 2020 21:14 
 To:  Mikee      51 of 183 
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Yeah, I'm somewhat involved in how the footy (and cricket and rugby) might come back (like, really really far down the chain obv not in any decision-making capacity) and it's sort of hopeful for some kind of thing in neutral venues in mid-June. Maybe.

It was strikingly noticeable to me during last year when Sky Bet suddenly switched all the adverts we made with them to responsible gambling messages when they'd previously been about all the handy and fun ways to bet, etc. I assume shitting themselves they'll be all banned from advertising again sooner or later. Some teams have about six or seven different betting/casino ads per game, it's nuts.
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 From:  Manthorp   6 May 2020 21:43 
 To:  Mikee      52 of 183 
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Hey Mikee, when the lockdown's relaxed and we can all do tongues again, we should meet up for a refreshing beverage. Working at Leeds Uni.
"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951
 
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 From:  Mikee   6 May 2020 21:52 
 To:  Manthorp      53 of 183 
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Hey, long time no speak! Sounds like a good plan.
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 From:  graphitone   6 May 2020 22:18 
 To:  Mikee      54 of 183 
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I know a load of people at Sky Bet, my current place has haemorrhaged people over to Sky Bet in the last year, lots of senior management, architects and devs. Our loss, your gain I'm sure.

I'm also in central Leeds (normally anyway). A lunchtime mini-meat with Throb would actually be doable. (bounce)

 


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 From:  graphitone   6 May 2020 22:19 
 To:  Manthorp      55 of 183 
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Do you have anything to do with the library there?

Edit - actually I think he might be at Leeds Beckett.

I know the guy who heads it up - I do karate with him.


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 From:  Manthorp   6 May 2020 22:21 
 To:  graphitone      56 of 183 
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This is shaping up as a Meaty plan
"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951
 
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 From:  Manthorp   6 May 2020 22:22 
 To:  graphitone      57 of 183 
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If he's Uni, then I'll know him or know of him. We're thick with libraries & archives. But sounds like he ain't.
"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
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 From:  graphitone   6 May 2020 22:40 
 To:  Manthorp      58 of 183 
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He's a chap by the name of Eric. Ring any bells with you?


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 From:  Manthorp   6 May 2020 22:47 
 To:  graphitone      59 of 183 
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Not promising so far...
"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
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 From:  graphitone   6 May 2020 22:57 
 To:  Manthorp      60 of 183 
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:C


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