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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  Lucy (X3N0PH0N)     
42538.67 In reply to 42538.64 
They are good! Gotta love a Welsh cake.

Oh man, degaussing a monitor. I miss doing that :'(

Me
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 From:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)   
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I have a new PC!

List of things in it is here:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NgVrRk

It went together quite easily - main problem I had was that I put the CPU cooler on the motherboard before mounting the mobo in the case, which meant it was a tight squeeze to plug in the power cable for the cpu.

Other than that, and some fun trying to set up a new install of Windows to my liking, it all seems to be good. It laughs at Just Cause 3, which my previous rig was weeping about, so I've mostly been explodeding things today.

Kenny

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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)      
42538.69 In reply to 42538.68 
Nice. That gpu is badass. In the spirit of things I went to order another 16GB ram stick, thinking I could dual channel it, but it seems to be same product name, slightly different part number (HX424C15FB3/16, vs. HX424C15FB/16 bought two years ago) with almost all the same specs, at least the ones that count, and different appearance (heat spreader and, I guess, pcb), and @ half the cost. Fingers crossed they will work together, slated to arrive Weds. I've got my eye on a Ryzen 5 1600 part, allegedly a rebadged 2600, and supposed to be good value.
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)      
42538.70 In reply to 42538.68 
Very nice too. Did you carry forward the T Rex from your previous PC?

Edit: that should be, T Rex with ambitious Koala combo.
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 From:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)   
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
42538.71 In reply to 42538.70 
The T-Rex has been perched atop several past PCs - I won it in a Godzilla roaring competition at an art exhibition opening party in Bradford; the artist Kenneth Hung, curated by Teh Forum's very own Steve Manthorp, some time in, oooh, 2003, maybe?

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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)      
42538.72 In reply to 42538.71 
That's excellent and a very good reason to carry it forward. 
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 From:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)   
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Next thing: I'm up and running, and everything *seems* to be working very nicely. Compared to the olden days, it's all so much easier. It took about 5 minutes to install Windows, and it recognised all the bits straight off, and there was no faffing around trying to download drivers from various places or right-clicking .inf files, or any of the other nonsense that setting up a PC used to involve.

Which leads me to my questions - I've been getting a nag box telling me that Nvidia control panel is not installed, and I just figured out how to stop the nag box (by disabling the " NVIDIA Display Container LS" service), and while I was tidying away the boxes the bits came in, I found a disk of motherboard drivers and utilities.

Is it worth installing any of this? I seem to remember that the additional "control panel" software for my previous graphics cards and motherboards gave access to some arcane features via gratuitously ugly interfaces designed by people who believed that rolling your own interface elements resulted in a far superior button than anything Micro$oft [sic] could produce.

I suppose it'd be useful to know about fan speeds and temperatures and frequencies and that kind of thing.

Kenny
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)      
42538.74 In reply to 42538.73 
Most people recommend against installing software that comes with the motherboard, unless there's any useful stuff you want like fan control, etc. without needing to go into the BIOS.

But they do recommend installing the AMD chipset drivers which you can get the latest from AMD's website. It also gives you some extra AMD specific power profiles.

Did you install Nvidia drivers from their website or just let Windows install them for you?

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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)      
42538.75 In reply to 42538.71 
Whenever I built myself a new PC in the past, I ended up doing a kind of "Oh no, I wish I'd seen that," thing like when I saw the special offers on a slightly faster memory or the next CPU up. Any of that? Just mention it because I was poking around some of the products on your list and...
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
42538.76 In reply to 42538.75 
Comes with the territory.
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 From:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)   
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
42538.77 In reply to 42538.75 
Yeah, but that's always the case. Spent ages deliberating on whether to spend just a little bit more on, just about everything. Only thing I caved on was the Samsung drive - originally I went for something else, but when it turned out to be out of stock, I went for the full terrabyte of Samsung goodness.

If you've seen some amazing deal on something I could have got instead of one of the components, I don't want to know!

Kenny
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)      
42538.78 In reply to 42538.77 
That's what I thought. Who wants the Ryzen 7 2700X 8 Core 4.3GHz anyway?
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 From:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)   
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
42538.79 In reply to 42538.78 
Yeah, but it's got LEDs in the cooler fan. Don't want that.

Kenny
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)      
42538.80 In reply to 42538.79 
But you wouldn't...oh, hang on, clear acrylic side panel. Ah right. Looks like one of the stock AMD coolers. Also, the Gigabyte mobo might not be quite in the same class as the MSI. Nothing to choose between the Corsair or Crucial RAM, I wouldn't have thought. If it was me, I might be tempted by the bundle, but I would reuse my Corsair water cooler.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
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So here's the definitive answer to the almost-matching ram stick part #s from Hyperx [Kingston] tech suppport:
 
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Both memory have exact spec, speed, timing and profiles. However, they have different memory chips manufactures so they are not identical memory. They can run together in same channel but will not run at dual channel mode.

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 From:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)     
42538.82 In reply to 42538.81 
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)     
42538.83 In reply to 42538.82 
Gosh (I think it was meant as a string, not a collection of random characters).
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 From:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)     
42538.84 In reply to 42538.83 
The website I cheated with stopped at 256 suggestions...I sense a limitation...

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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)     
42538.85 In reply to 42538.82 
Every password you've used since "EGGHUNT" proved inadequate?
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)     
42538.86 In reply to 42538.84 
https://www.morewords.com/contains/gthegu
 
Every password you've used since "EGGHUNT" proved inadequate?

ERYTHROAGGLUTINATING looks pretty bulletproof to me.
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