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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
42264.117 In reply to 42264.116 
Hah! How dare you hint at the truth. Of course, one of these sad truths beginning to come home to some of our captains of finance is that the IT churning machine of Mumbai isn't Bombay any more and that just because you can get something wacked out at a bargain price in some shitty ERP shell, doesn't mean it'll be you who creams off the profit.

The other little nuisance is that it's hard to offshore anything that smells as though it might dish the dirt on UK tax liability. Imagine the annoyance if details of Jacob R M's tax affairs leaked out because his data found its way abroad. So we bring the buggers over here under various schemes. See how those damn natives love a decent wage - I mean it's still cheaper than paying our locals. But then there are complaints about that. I mean, how's an honest exploiter supposed to earn a living?
never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   
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42264.118 
Third time lucky... not.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      
42264.119 In reply to 42264.118 
Not a fucking clue what happens now.

Ideally a general election, but can't actually see Labour winning that in the current climate. Mess.

Even a second referendum would probably result in a Leave vote again.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
42264.120 In reply to 42264.119 
Current polls have stay ahead.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   
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A mass of protestors ranging from British far-right activists through to Trump-voting Americans and French supporters of a ‘Frexit’ and others were among those who have been attending a Ukip event outside the House of Parliament “sponsored”, in the party’s words, by Tommy Robinson.

 :-((

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 From:  milko  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
42264.122 In reply to 42264.119 
thing with a second GE is that the media has to show a modicum of even-handedness with their reporting, by law. So last time there was a GE all the predictions were for a Tory whitewash and we know how that worked out. This time Labour aren't starting from so far back, despite the effort of the Tinge (or the CUKs as they now want to call themselves for some reason). I mean, it's still pretty grim, but there's a little hope.  
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
42264.123 In reply to 42264.117 

Well obviously you switch from Mumbaikars to Romanians - they have paler skin, closer accents, less alien names, and of course it wont be long now until Romania is a full EU member making travel even easier...

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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
42264.124 In reply to 42264.119 
I can't see anyone winning - Labour and Conservatives have both pissed off so many people, but then no idea how many will still vote for them given the lack of any other option...

What happens if there's another hung parliament but nobody can build enough support to make a coalition?

I'd love it if the country united behind writing "Fuck off all of you" across the boxes and the majority was spoilt ballots.

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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
42264.125 In reply to 42264.124 
Then you'd just have the royal family to run things.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      
42264.126 In reply to 42264.125 
Those bunch of turds don't give a shit.
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
42264.127 In reply to 42264.126 
'course not, as long as we keep paying them for whatever it is they do then the concerns of the little people can go hang.

If May resigns her post she's only going inflame the haters ire, in that she's stubbornly dug this pit we're all in, but as we're scrabbling for ladders, she walks away from the mess embarrassed and defeated, but away from the spotlight (a la Cameron) leaving the next poor sod to shoulder the burden of blame. Who that particular job falls to is anyone's guess at the moment. The polls I saw were favouring Gove for the role. If that happens and he's unelected or as the result of a GE, I can see more than effigies being dragged through the streets of London.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   
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“Man Stole Daughter’s Girl Scouts Cookie Money To Pay For Erotic Massage”
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      
42264.129 In reply to 42264.128 
Just read that Jeremy Hunt is throwing his hat into the I wanna be the PM ring. That sends a cold shiver down my spine.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   
 To:  graphitone     
42264.130 In reply to 42264.129 
Who is the least bad candidate?
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      
42264.131 In reply to 42264.130 
Not sure. If it went to a public vote I can see Boris winning it, but this will be an election for leader of an incumbent party so the public don't get a look in. Raab's a strong contender and has been mooted as the person to bring the party back together into cohesion.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      
42264.132 In reply to 42264.130 
Wikipedia says there are only actually four declared candidates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Conservative_Party_(UK)_leadership_election#Declared

Out of those, three are definitely arseholes, but I don't think I've ever heard of Rory Stewart, who seems to be a curious character.

He seems to want to focus on rural areas and communities, and doesn't mention any contentious policies.

But at the same time can you trust anyone who chose such a shit photographer for his "look at me being prime-ministerial" photo...?

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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
42264.133 In reply to 42264.132 
"I’m a shareholder in far more local community pubs than I would like"

Um...
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
42264.134 In reply to 42264.132 
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a curious character
He does seem curious and the few times I've seen him interviewed he was rather less obnoxious than most Tory MPs. The thing is, I can't help wondering what went wrong in his life, or what character defect he has to end up as a Tory MP at all.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
42264.135 In reply to 42264.134 

There's a 40 minute BBC4 interview from 3 weeks ago where he apparently discusses it, but it doesn't have a transcript (what happened to BBC accessibility?) and I don't know if I can be arsed listening.

There's also a Guardian article saying:

He shows a Cameronesque irri­tation with government: "Excessive regulation, red tape, all the stuff people complain about. You have got more hope with the Tories of having people who speak that kind of language; you can say that sort of thing without them getting defensive . . . I found student politics when I was at university a bit uncomfortable," he says. "I think the Conservative party has changed and I have changed."

That's from 2010 when he first became an MP, so I am wondering how his position has changed, but also whether he's relevant - the Wikipedia article has been updated and Rory's the only candidate showing zero endorsements.

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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
42264.136 In reply to 42264.135 
I gave it a listen (the interview doesn't begin until nearly 6 minutes in). I thought he came across as a bit insubstantial although that may be the style of questioning. I think he's in love with the traditions of a Tory Party that doesn't exist any more.
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