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 From:  milko  
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42123.1 
The theme graphics make it look like a James Bond film at times

I watched it up until somewhere around the break they took at xmas, when
they found themselves in a parallel universe/dimension mcguffin

Quite enjoyed it at first but quite rapidly got annoyed by plot and dumbass characters doing dumbass things and so on. It had some nice moments, but I have given up, life is too short.

Oh and it's yet another Trek where the space battles are shit compared to something like Star Wars, but I suppose that's par for the course anyway.
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 From:  Curated Festive Content (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  milko     
42123.2 In reply to 42123.1 
Star Trek is a western set in space. Star Wars is WWII in space.
“hooliganism comes to lawn bowling”
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  Curated Festive Content (DSMITHHFX)     
42123.3 In reply to 42123.2 
I'm sure I saw some interview where Lucas said that Star Wars was meant to be cowboys in a space opera.
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 From:  Curated Festive Content (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  graphitone     
42123.4 In reply to 42123.3 
Nah it's a straight-up war movie.
“hooliganism comes to lawn bowling”
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 From:  milko  
 To:  Curated Festive Content (DSMITHHFX)     
42123.5 In reply to 42123.2 
I'm not sure Westerns should involve so much stuff like giant carts (space ships) slowly lumbering around shooting each others covers (shields) off while people have inane conversations inside.

Anyway, new series is bobbins. I was reading an enjoyable few tweets about how everyone shrugs off immense tragedy in Star Wars. Luke's (SPOILER WARNING) Aunt and Uncle, barely mentioned after they cop it. Leia loses an entire home planet and gets tortured in one day, then a short while later they're all cheery. It goes on! Yay!
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
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42123.6 In reply to 42123.4 
You know the thing with names is that sometimes they're like real useful at describing things.

Star Wars is war in space.
Star Trek is treks in space.

:O

Both George and Gene grew up with westerns so similarities are unsurprising, but Star Wars was just Lucas writing his own Flash Gordon because he couldn't get rights for the official one. Neither SW nor FG are westerns. Star Trek was picked up when its similarities to a couple of then-popular westerns were highlighted in the pitch. Does that make ST a space western, or does it simply show that someone wanting to write an epic voyage exploring human nature and morality needs to draw comparison to existing popular examples to get it accepted, and at the time those examples happened to be westerns.

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 From:  Curated Festive Content (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
42123.7 In reply to 42123.6 
“hooliganism comes to lawn bowling”
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  milko     
42123.8 In reply to 42123.1 
I agree. It felt as though they had spent all their time thinking up a fistful of bright ideas: new Klingons, the spore drive, gay characters, er - new Klingons. That was all quite intriguing over the first couple of episodes but when they'd done all that difficult thinking they were too worn out to bother with character development, plot-lines or a decent script. The acting has been reasonable but you can't blame the cast when plot, script and direction all plod. The only way they could make it worse would be to let Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss loose on it. 
never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead
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 From:  milko  
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42123.9 In reply to 42123.8 
haha, I agree completely. Anyway, there's plenty more better telly. And The Expanse is back for S3 soon and is much better sci-fi than this. Phew!
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 From:  koswix  
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42123.10 In reply to 42123.1 
I thought it was a pretty good sci-fi show, but a piss poor Trek. Just caught up with the final episode tonight, and the cliffhanger was so predictable I literally figuratively cringed.

I really enjoyed the first mirror universe episode, Jonathan Frakes did a decent job directing that and giving it a bit more of a Trek feel. That arc got old really quickly, though :(

Going to watch The Orville next. I've heard many great things, mainly that it feels more like Star Trek than Star Trek.

Bootnote: People on the intertubes seem to be abbreviating Star Trek Discovery to STD. I find this quite amusing.
 

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 From:  Curated Festive Content (DSMITHHFX)  
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42123.11 In reply to 42123.10 
How is something that occurs in every other Star Trek episode, along with a bunch of green-and-purple-hued bipedal humanoids wearing rubber masks, wigs and brandishing firearm-like weapons,  a "spoiler" ?  :-{)
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 From:  milko  
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42123.12 In reply to 42123.10 
Oh, I do need to try The Orville. I'm catching up on Man In The High Castle just now and only have time for one at a time, but I'll try.

The very first Frakes episode had its moments but I was already irritated by so many characters that I didn't care. I'm actually pleased I was able to recognise the signs in time to not waste more time actually watching the thing.
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 From:  koswix  
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42123.13 In reply to 42123.12 
A lot of characters grated, for sure. I probably wouldn't have got past episode 2 if I did have a week in bed with flu. It definitely improved after around episode 4, but overall it's a cack Trek.

I haven't even started Man in the High Castle yet. Only finished Breaking Bad over xmas :$

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 From:  Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)  
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42123.14 In reply to 42123.1 
I have managed to watch the first 3 so far but I have found little reason to continue, as you said, life is too short!

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