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 From:  Kalsarikänni (DSMITHHFX)   
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
42097.6 In reply to 42097.5 
Yeah, I like his silliness too, but it is a limitation.
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 From:  Laurence Burke (LAURENCE_BURKE)  
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42097.7 In reply to 42097.6 
I also like his silliness to friend.

APPROVED: 17 Jan 12:02 by MILKO

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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
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42097.8 In reply to 42097.1 
Finally saw it. Feeling a bit ambivalent really. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but at the same time I felt a bit 'is that all there is?' at the end. All of the performances were good, especially Sally Hawkins, but apart from her they didn't break a sweat fitting (albeit very well) into well-worn character roles. I felt the fish-man was underdone to the point where I longed for something to make me care about his fate, or think of him as anything other than a bloke in a fish costume. There was a kind of polished reproduction-world thing going on: the feeling that the world where the film was staged was an immense and detailed museum. Films that do this kind of things , for instance Amelie, the Grand Budapest Hotel, Hugo and probably several others, usually use the style to showcase fast-moving, complex plots. The plot here is as simple as it gets and the result is that although it looks gorgeous, it also looks (imho) a tad thin.

A few reviewers have said that it's his best film. For me it isn't quite up there with Cronos, the Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth.
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 From:  Austin (COREY_AUSTIN)  
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Hi friends does anyone watch Shape of Water movie is it really good movie? any suggestion

APPROVED: 5 Jul 17:50 by MATT

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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
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42097.10 
Can I assume that 42097.9 concerns 'Secrets of Netflix' or 'Grow an extra willy in 3 easy steps' or are all the mods off enjoying the exceptional UK sunshine?
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 From:  Kalsarikänni (DSMITHHFX)   
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42097.11 In reply to 42097.10 
Perhaps another non sequitur like 42097.7?
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
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42097.12 In reply to 42097.11 
Quite likely. There's another post awaiting moderation somewhere. I can't remember which thread.

Edit: Oh, right. I see. And the other one as well.
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 From:  Kalsarikänni (DSMITHHFX)   
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42097.13 In reply to 42097.12 
Speaks bottish...
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 From:  Manthorp  
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42097.14 In reply to 42097.1 
I loved it.  My mum - a discerning art house-filmgoer at 84 - hated it for the violence, which she always hates.

It was one of those classic recursive paeons of love to cinema by a director utterly consumed by the form.  The attention to period art direction was meticulous, even if the script & acting didn't quite follow suit. The ending was inevitable from within the first hour.

FWR: Free Willy with willy.

"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951
 
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  Manthorp     
42097.15 In reply to 42097.14 
I kind of agree. My issue is that I think that in his consumption of and by the form, he lost track of the script and acting far too much.
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 From:  Kalsarikänni (DSMITHHFX)   
 To:  Manthorp     
42097.16 In reply to 42097.14 
I thought the ending revelation where, it transpired, the heroine has gills, which she herself hadn't known was masterfully subtle.
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 From:  Manthorp  
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42097.17 In reply to 42097.16 
I hope that was written in blue ink, Smiffy, cos I had it taped from the first mention of the scar.  I mean, hell, the movie starts with her wanking in a bath...

"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
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