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 From:  Very Stable Genius (DSMITHHFX)  
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Anyone got an opinion?
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Very Stable Genius (DSMITHHFX)     
41809.2 In reply to 41809.1 
Pointless.
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 From:  Very Stable Genius (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
41809.3 In reply to 41809.2 
Yeah it does kind of seem like it. Only axing cause I'm looking at angular 2, which uses it by default. Angular 2 is stupid overkill for 99% of any projects I might get involved with anytime soon, but shiny! Anyhoo you can allegedly also use bog-standard js, so mebbe it is pointless.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
 To:  Very Stable Genius (DSMITHHFX)     
41809.4 In reply to 41809.3 
Never liked Angular - it doesn't smell right.

We're going with React, though I've yet to do anything meaningful enough (and free from bad implementation choices of others) to know if I'd recommend it yet.

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 From:  Very Stable Genius (DSMITHHFX)  
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41809.5 In reply to 41809.4 
Read this the other day
 
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 From:  Very Stable Genius (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
41809.6 In reply to 41809.4 
I used angular 1x for several projects. It's not too hard once you get your head wrapped around it. But I realized I could do most of what I needed with jquery, and the angular build environment is too complicated for what I need (e.g., you need node, npm, and a bunch of other libraries), so I dropped it.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
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41809.7 In reply to 41809.6 
You'll appreciate this...

  https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f

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 From:  Very Stable Genius (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
41809.8 In reply to 41809.7 
 LMAO  :-((
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 From:  af (CAER)  
 To:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)     
41809.9 In reply to 41809.7 
That's partly why we're sticking with good old Backbone/jQuery/Underscore at my job. Keepin it simple, plus the kind of stuff we make doesn't really need the real-time kind of things React is good at.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)  
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41809.10 In reply to 41809.9 
I'm growing less convinced that React is good at those kind of real-time things. Not when combined with all the crap it brings.

I don't recall if I've looked at Backbone before, but I'm guessing not - I just scanned the getting started stuff and it looks like the right kind of simple. I mean, the tinytext single page 800px website design is shite, but the explanations/philosophy/etc of Backbone suggest someone that knows what they're doing. I'm definitely going to have a play with it later.

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 From:  af (CAER)  
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41809.11 In reply to 41809.10 
It's kind of minimal, and very unopinionated, which is why we like it – it can fit in nicely with existing projects, and you can use just the parts you like (we mostly just use the Models and Views).
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