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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   15 Jul 2016 10:02 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       21 of 51 
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I love a bit of Google tracking. Timeline in Google Maps is one of my favourite Google features.

Also, turning the device off does disable the features, because it's off.
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 From:  milko   15 Jul 2016 10:04 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       22 of 51 
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Honestly I think the only way to guarantee all of that is to not have the device in the first place. And you probably have to worry about what sort of router you have at home and which ISP and whether to VPN for everything and yadda yadda it likely gets a bit difficult to manage when it all adds up.
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 From:  milko   15 Jul 2016 10:05 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      23 of 51 
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That's what they want you to think!
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 From:  graphitone   15 Jul 2016 10:10 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       24 of 51 
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If you're a law abiding citizen (and I'm assuming you are, I don't think there's a law forbidding tin foil hats), then is being tracked necessarily a bad thing? 

 


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 From:  Manthorp   15 Jul 2016 13:10 
 To:  graphitone      25 of 51 
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I'm not bothered about being tracked (and I'm far from a law-abiding citizen!) and I enjoy some of the products that depend upon tracking. But I do think that one should have the right not to be tracked if one would rather not.
"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951
 
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    15 Jul 2016 13:21 
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http://www.pressreader.com/canada/toronto-star/20160715/281655369415092

I'm law abiding -ish, and maybe that matters now.

But in some dystopian future in which, say Donald Trump is POTUS, or UKIP forms a gummint. Crazy, I know...
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 From:  graphitone   15 Jul 2016 13:50 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       27 of 51 
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The side scrolling on that page rather than the usual vertical up down arrangement stopped me from reading the article. Is this how Canada internets itself?


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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    15 Jul 2016 13:54 
 To:  graphitone      28 of 51 
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Interesting thing about the article, is it's in the print edition (which is where I saw it) but not the paper's online version (thestar.com), at least I can't find it there. I had to google the title to find that website, which I agree is stupidly formatted. Bonus: you can't select text! :-O~~~ Anyway, here's a screen cap of salient bits
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 From:  graphitone   15 Jul 2016 14:41 
 To:  Manthorp      29 of 51 
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Yeah, you should be able to have the choice, but in Smiffy's case, that choice is being decided by the delicate balancing act between all out paranoia and giving himself up to getting spied on by everyone with access to a command prompt or as Milko said, just leaving his phone at home (where presumably the powers that be already know he resides).

It maybe his recalcitrant attitude towards the establishment that stops him for benefiting from the plusses that a new phone has to offer, whether one outweighs the other is up to him, but does offer a more fundamental choice of use it and accept that it's possible someone might be looking at his selfies, or leave it in a drawer for use when necessary.

There's another option o'course, get a non-smart cell phone. No GPS, no cameras etc... <shrug>


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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    15 Jul 2016 14:53 
 To:  graphitone      30 of 51 
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It's not as draconian as you make it sound. All I need is a suitably shielded case/bag/wallet to carry it in, then when I need to use whatever features I choose (including gps, camera, whatever... actually the camera is crap), all I have to do is take it out and use it. Simple, easy -- said case/bag/wallet not so easy to find though.

Bonus: I'm unreachable when phone is in case/bag/wallet. (bounce)

Did I mention that I hate phones?
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 From:  graphitone   15 Jul 2016 15:05 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       31 of 51 
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 :-D

Do you have any lead lined bags from using camera film?


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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   15 Jul 2016 15:06 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       32 of 51 
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I'm curious then, what do you actually want it for?

Also, if you are going to put it in a shielded case of some sort whilst leaving it powered on I'd recommend putting it in Flight Mode because I'm sure a phone without signal that is looking for signal uses far more battery.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   15 Jul 2016 15:07 
 To:  graphitone      33 of 51 
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Good old 53North. I don't miss his racist slurs, but I do miss his insanity.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    15 Jul 2016 15:09 
 To:  graphitone      34 of 51 
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Nope, never used one. I've brought loads of film through airport scanners and they did not appear to be infected.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    15 Jul 2016 15:14 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      35 of 51 
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To replace our land line eventually (Mrs.D got a cell about a year ago, we're paying ~30-bucks a mo for landline). Also some other things, like taking crap photos of stupid stuff -- brace yourselves for the deluge -- checking maps from wifi (I don't have a data plan), mp3's, checking email. Music on the nexus 7 is kind of sucky, plus it's relatively awkward to hump around.
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)   15 Jul 2016 15:15 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       36 of 51 
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Walk around in one of these
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Might have to make the mesh a little finer though.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    15 Jul 2016 15:17 
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)      37 of 51 
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Nevermind the cage, I want the dalek with the super taser. Then maybe the Feds will leave me alone!
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   15 Jul 2016 15:33 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)       38 of 51 
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Do you need a landline for your internet connection?

There's an annoying thing in the UK if you have an internet connection via phone line (ADSL, BT Fibre etc) you have to pay for line rental + internet, even if you don't want to use a landline.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)    15 Jul 2016 15:41 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      39 of 51 
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Nah, we get internet from cable. Though we are thinking of switching isp too so it might be dsl.
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 From:  milko   15 Jul 2016 17:08 
 To:  graphitone      40 of 51 
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the non-smart phone can still be tracked fairly accurately by cell triangulation. It's when you've got four goons tailing you you really have to worry I suppose.
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