GeneralSo - apparently I'm renovating a house

 

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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  Chris (CHRISSS)     
41658.21 In reply to 41658.20 
My brother's got pretty low standards, I'll nip round his.

In the past I've chased cables into walls and patch plastered over the top of those. I'm pretty good at getting a neat finish if the channel/hole is thinner than the width of my tool (NJ).

 
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)  
 To:  graphitone     
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When we had our extension done, I asked the electrician to do a simple move of a socket away from where a radiator was going.

I got home to find what looked like somebody had pushed porridge by hand into a badly chased trench. The new socket was at least 10 degrees skewed and at the other end was a blanking plate with one corner UNDER the porridge/plaster.

There was a builder working there and he could hardly stop laughing. The 'apprentice' had done it. I had to dig the whole mess apart and do it again properly before it set. I checked all the new wiring after that. There were some interesting choices like chasing a couple of back boxes into blockwork which had the frame for plasterboard fitted instead of surface mounting (i.e. when it was all in place the last sparky in had to use ridiculously long screws to fix the frontplates on) but it mostly looked good (and they signed it off).
never trust a man in a blue trench coat, never drive a car when you're dead
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  william (WILLIAMA)     
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 :-&

It's bonkers what some people think they can get away with. However, I think the blame can partly lie with the homeowner too. Our kitchen is a cellar conversion that the previous owners had done. When we looked round before buying we'd asked if it was tanked and a pump installed, to which the guy said yeah and the pump's under the sink - we stupidly thought no more about it, getting distracted by the rest of the house. Turns out the kitchen is tanked (though some cupboards are still a tad damp) and the pump is a saniflow unit to get the sink/dishwasher drain water back to ground level. (fail) No idea why he didn't question it when they put it in.

So, we're saving for a new kitchen, those problems not withstanding it's just been poorly put together, skirting boards just butted up to each other at corners (no mitre-ing) backs of cupboards cut out to accomodate gas/electricity meters, wonky cupboards. We got the house in an unseasonally warm September, come the time to turn the heating on we found that the kitchen radiator wasn't getting even a tiny bit warm - it hadn't been balanced properly, so God knows how long he'd not had heating down there for.
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 From:  Dan (HERMAND)   
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Thanks for all your kind words and advice :) I've not had much chance to reply, but I AM reading and taking it all in :)

After much debate (And being told not to by lots of professionals) we decided to drop the upstairs ceilings over the weekend. I'd always wanted to, but got talked into over-boarding.

Because it's got a traditional built roof, the ceiling joists aren't load bearing and it appears they were literally chucked up. We weren't having much luck marking them out, I was feeling frustrated (And I'll confess I did always want to take them out to 'complete the job') so we pulled them down.

It was pretty obvious why we were struggling - most of them are at something of an angle, with some having distinct twists and kinks in. One was so bad we decided to splice it (I was tempted to replace it, but they're nailed to the rafters so it felt like a Step Too Far for DIY. Plus, it was right on the boundary wall so any fuckups could have seen me having awkward conversations with the neighbours)

 
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 From:  JonCooper  
 To:  graphitone     
41658.25 In reply to 41658.23 
mitreing is considered very 'old-school' now - butt&scribe is where it's at these days

Jon
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  JonCooper     
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Yep, I wished I'd seen the videos on that technique before doing the skirting in our attic room. :C

Mitreing's still needed for external corners though.

 
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)  
 To:  JonCooper     
41658.27 In reply to 41658.25 
For getting your ass tattooed?

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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)  
 To:  JonCooper     
41658.28 In reply to 41658.25 
I used to think they were called button scribe joints. A new house I was working in today had butted internal corners, mitred external ones though.

Me
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 From:  graphitone  
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)      
41658.29 In reply to 41658.24 
How's it going? Any more progress? We're a week into having our bathroom done and it's already caused a few headaches and stress, a leak's brought down part of the ceiling in the dining room and our heating system is again proving a challenge getting itself understood by anyone. I'll post some pictures later on this weekend.
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 From:  Dan (HERMAND)   
 To:  graphitone     
41658.30 In reply to 41658.29 
It's still going, just about! I've been working away for the last 5 or 6 weeks, and the 7 day weeks have taken their toll! 

But, yeah, good amounts of movement since my last posts. With the exception of the bathroom (Which I just can't justify / afford to do as part of this) every single ceiling and stud wall came down. So, with the sole exception of the bathroom ceiling there's not a single bit of original lath and plaster, or indeed any old plasterboard (The kitchen had been overboarded in the past).

Upstairs was all chased out and the main electrics ran, and it's now been all boarded and plastered. Finally got some paint on this weekend and the difference is just staggering. All of sudden the upstairs looks like it might just be liveable! I'm pretty bad at taking work photos, but I've uploaded a handful to the album:

https://www.flickr.com/gp/vwdanh/16c962
(They're out of order, so scroll down below the original Estate Agent photos)

I'll take some proper photos when I'm next in, because I really am chuffed to bits to see the upstairs looking like a show home, instead of so tired.

We also got in new double glazing windows on the front (couldn't afford all the way around), and the difference with the bay windows is massive. The old ones had horrid plastic trim everywhere, which were mainly covering big huge holes. The bays were freezing and noisy, but now they're absolutely mint.

Other than that, we had the fireplaces knocked out and liners put in. I've got some guys coming in on Friday to replace our original lead water pipe and bring us off the shared supply with next door, and the sparky is coming to check on downstairs. So, hopefully we'll be able to get some of the downstairs ceilings up this weekend and get the plasterer back.

Still a lot to do, but we're definitely making progress little by little each weekend!
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 From:  Matt  
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)      
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4oh4!

doohicky

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 From:  Dan (HERMAND)   
 To:  Matt     
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quote: Matt
4oh4!

Fixed, I'm bad at computers :(

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 From:  Dan (HERMAND)   
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Finally getting the staircase finished and the downstairs wooden flooring in over the next couple of weeks. House is done for the most part - lots of snagging in a decorating sense (I think we painted too early, really - but there you go) which may or may not get done any time soon.

 
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Dan (HERMAND)      
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I put up a curtain pole today in the spare bedroom after nearly 3 years in the house. Fear my DIY skills.
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 From:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
41658.35 In reply to 41658.34 
Gaffa Tape?
[...Insert Brain Here...]
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Serg (NUKKLEAR)     
41658.36 In reply to 41658.35 
Would have been easier, REAL SCREWS.
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 From:  gracia (GRACEINC)  
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I need to change the wires of the spot lamps i have in my room and its been three months now. 
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