Want an AV. Receiver but don't want surround sound

From:	koswix	7 Mar 2015 00:32
To:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	21 of 27

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So you're saying get the yamaha? Are they any good? I thought they made motorbikes.


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From:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	9 Mar 2015 16:47
To:	koswix	22 of 27

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I think they make so many things, even they've probably lost track - musical instruments, motorbikes, ATVs, electronics... Mind you at least they're not Samsung, those guys make rather large boats (e.g.: ferries) as well :-& Anyway in terms of being a fanboi, I tend to prefer Yamaha to Onkyo and DM (Denon-Marantz, same mothership); but if you go quite a bit further up, then Anthem and a few others rear their head as well. [...Insert Brain Here...]

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From:	koswix	9 Mar 2015 17:32
To:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	23 of 27

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I just want my music to sound good and be able to hear the dialogue in 5.1 sources, where both sky box and raspberry pi fuck up the down mix so much I have to adjust the volume every two minutes.


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From:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	9 Mar 2015 17:38
To:	koswix	24 of 27

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Yeah, pretty much any current-ish AVR should be able to down-mix 5.1 or 7.1 or whatever into a 2.0 output, plus apply any "creative" EQ / effects you may want - like dynamic volume which makes quiet bits louder and loud bits quieter, good for watching poorly mastered/encoded stuff or late night viewing. [...Insert Brain Here...]

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From:	fixrman	9 Mar 2015 17:43
To:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	25 of 27

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Is Harmon Kardon now crap? They once made good receivers and such but now I think they are just off-sourced Chinese crap.

Did you ever see such a messed up situation in your whole life, son?

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From:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	9 Mar 2015 17:54
To:	fixrman	26 of 27

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Hmmh, it depends... they did recently make some rather good two-channel (stereo) receivers, the HK990 and HK3390 of which the former was quite remarkable, but their more recent surround AVRs are a bit "meh" - totally decent, but none of them made me think "yeah, I'll take that over the equivalent Yamaha". Mind you this is all from reading online and some very very brief hands-on, so I may well be wrong! To be honest, what really puts me off Onkyo is the slew of HDMI board failures and overheating issues that they've had with their AVRs, which has kept happening for many generations. I also prefer the more natural sound of Yamaha - each manufacturer does do some degree of sound signature tuning on their devices, and the amp/processing tech that each of them choose also has some degree of impact on that. In an ideal world they should all sound the same and not "colour" the sound in any way, but we don't live in that ideal world. [...Insert Brain Here...]

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From:	fixrman	9 Mar 2015 18:42
To:	Serg (NUKKLEAR)	27 of 27

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Hmmm. Why does the Quote box not work?

>> In an ideal world they should all sound the same and not "colour" the sound in any way<<

I agree. If I want to colour the music, I can do that. I shouldn't need special effects in order for the sound to be reproduced. I have an old Pioneer AVR, a VSX5300. It was a nice unit, very early Surround Sound. So early in fact, it doesn't even have a powered centre output, so one either needs a powered centre or an amp. I decided to get a non-powered speaker and use a Rockford Fosgate single channel 50W amp to power it and it sounded pretty good. If I wanted better or more prominent dialogue, I could adjust the gain on the centre amp separately and all was well. The sub had to be [self] powered off one of the front channels because there was no sub output either.

Did you ever see such a messed up situation in your whole life, son?

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