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 From:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)   21 Nov 2014 11:26 
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41279.1 
To a networking bod, this will likely be a daft question.

I'm getting a D-Link DIR-860L as my current router (a Huwai thing) as supplied by my ISP is too locked down for my liking and, although it works, is pretty dated tech-wise.

Now, originally the plan was to do a straight out replacement (luckily my ISP are kind enough to post all the required info in a FAQ for using your own router), but a thought occurs...please correct me if I'm wrong.

My current router is plugged into an extension socket in my office at home...makes sense as that's where most of my equipment is. Now, instead of replacing the router in there, could I simply put the new router into the master socket and use both at the same time?

Foolhardy or not?

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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)   21 Nov 2014 11:27 
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)      2 of 29 
41279.2 In reply to 41279.1 
Are you asking whether you can use one router to go through another? Why would you even want to do that?

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 From:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)   21 Nov 2014 11:30 
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)      3 of 29 
41279.3 In reply to 41279.2 
I don't think so...I suppose what I'm asking is can I have two routers logged into my ISP at the same time?

For reasons of increased wireless coverage and giving me more wired networking options in two rooms.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   21 Nov 2014 11:39 
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)      4 of 29 
41279.4 In reply to 41279.3 
No.

Plug the new router into the master socket so you actually get the full speed of your connection (unless the extension causes no drop in speed).

Preferably you'd have some ethernet cable between the location of the master socket and the office.

You may well be able to use the old router as a network switch by turning off all the DHCP and ISP settings and not having the phoneline plugged into it.
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 From:  milko   21 Nov 2014 11:39 
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)      5 of 29 
41279.5 In reply to 41279.2 
What you're saying is actually sort of sensible in this kind of case if the ISP does lock down the modem - virgin media cable is a popular one. You set their thing to be modem mode and use your own better router as a router.

What he's saying, I dunno m8 it sounds like it's unlikely to work to me.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   21 Nov 2014 11:40 
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)      6 of 29 
41279.6 In reply to 41279.1 
Actually, that router isn't an ADSL router. You'd need a router/modem to plug that in to.
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 From:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)   21 Nov 2014 11:50 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      7 of 29 
41279.7 In reply to 41279.4 
Thought it might have been wishful thinking.

I'm using Devolo Powerline plugs to get my networking from the office to the living room which has been brilliant, although I may well put the new router on the master socket and move some of the Powerlines around...thinking about it, most of the networking activity is in the living room these days, so that may make more sense.

Thanks.

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 From:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)   21 Nov 2014 11:52 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      8 of 29 
41279.8 In reply to 41279.6 
Well...shit.

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 From:  koswix   21 Nov 2014 11:56 
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)      9 of 29 
41279.9 In reply to 41279.3 
You can't n have them both logged into the ISP at the same time because

a) dsl doesn't work like that

and b) the new router you've ordered doesn't have an ADSL modem built in.

If it's too late to change your order, you'll need to connect the ISP supplied thing to your phone line, turn off wifi etc., and plug your new router into the ISP jobby.

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 From:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)   21 Nov 2014 12:07 
 To:  koswix      10 of 29 
41279.10 In reply to 41279.9 
It was a new DSL modem/router I wanted so hopefully I can cancel/send it back. Don't know what the hell I was thinking.

This would be a better bet then, only missing Wireless AC which I'm not that fussed about.

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   21 Nov 2014 12:10 
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)      11 of 29 
41279.11 In reply to 41279.10 
Plenty of other router manufacturers out there.
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 From:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)   21 Nov 2014 12:12 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      12 of 29 
41279.12 In reply to 41279.11 
Any recommendations?

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 From:  koswix   21 Nov 2014 12:17 
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)      13 of 29 
41279.13 In reply to 41279.12 
The last one I bought must be coming up for 10 years old. It's still going strong at my mum's house to provide wifi for her tablet.

That was a linksys.

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 From:  koswix   21 Nov 2014 12:21 
 To:  koswix      14 of 29 
41279.14 In reply to 41279.13 
Thinking about it, I thought there's no way that wireless G could be that old. Turns out it is. Fuck me, what did we do before WiFi?

 

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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   21 Nov 2014 12:48 
 To:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)      15 of 29 
41279.15 In reply to 41279.12 
Well I recently bought a Buffalo router because I could install dd-wrt on it and the WiFi on the Virgin Superhub was flaky, that seems to be ticking along nicely. A lot of people seem to like Netgear and Linksys.

In the past I've generally just used the ISP routers. The BeThere and Sky routers have been fairly decent.

The only one I've had issues with was a D-Link router about 10 years ago because it couldn't cope with too many connections (torrents flooding it), but that was ages ago so I doubt it's an issue with modern D-Link stuff.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)   21 Nov 2014 14:57 
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41279.16 
I thought it sounded like he just wanted to use the old as a switch?  Maybe I misunderstand the question?  If that is what he wants to do that's possible...
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 From:  Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)   21 Nov 2014 16:57 
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)      17 of 29 
41279.17 In reply to 41279.16 
Quote: Me...earlier
Now, originally the plan was to do a straight out replacement
I would have done the straight replacement, then essentially had a spare router with two phone sockets...hence the original question.

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 From:  Dave!!   22 Nov 2014 16:06 
 To:  ANT_THOMAS      18 of 29 
41279.18 In reply to 41279.15 
I bunged dd-wrt onto an "acquired" Linksys WRT54GL in order to provide a wireless bridge in my living room, since neither my Sky+ box nor my Raspberry Pi have built-in wireless support. My main router is just the standard Sky hub and it works a treat for on demand and streaming videos to the Pi. Still might upgrade the bits at some point though as the setup does choke a bit with high-def stuff unfortunately.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS   22 Nov 2014 19:28 
 To:  Dave!!      19 of 29 
41279.19 In reply to 41279.18 
I was initally looking at Open-WRT because it supported my TP-Link AP, didn't realise dd-wrt supported so many routers, loads!
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 From:  koswix   27 Nov 2014 19:08 
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So what's the cheapest dd-wrt compatible router these days? I fancy replacing my stupid sky booster with a proper Bridge setup so that the wifi isn't being repeated.

Or should I just get a 4 port switch and a couple of these home plug doodads? 

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