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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
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41273.21 
It's funny (not really) how differently we go about things.  I only, ONLY ever use a torrent if I can't find it on News Groups.  Do you guys not get these nice things (attached)?  Turns out I just got this today.  I can count on my hands and feet the amount of times I use a torrent in a years time, yet I get this bullshit.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41273.22 In reply to 41273.21 
ButTorrent LMAO
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
41273.23 In reply to 41273.22 
I had the same reaction.  It's a big deal, yet the fucks can't spell it correctly. 
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41273.24 In reply to 41273.21 
But no, I haven't ever had anything like that.

There's some cases of a dodgy law firm sending out letters to people to pay some money to prevent a court case, usually referring to a porn movie, probably to embarrass them into paying up to keep quiet.

My issue with newsgroups is the whole paying to pirate idea.
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 From:  ANT_THOMAS  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41273.25 In reply to 41273.23 
What are they actually going to do? Apart from cut you off?
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
41273.26 In reply to 41273.24 
I've never had an issue, this is the first notice I've ever received.  I've been on the internet since '96/7 and this is the first, so I guess not bad.  Guess I'm down to two strikes now?

I understand the paying thing.  A friend and I split the cost.  What I like is it uses SSL.  

I really don't like how you can see the entire swarm using BT.  I'm sure there has to be a way to make that disappear.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
41273.27 In reply to 41273.25 
Nothing, I don't think anyway.  We are supposed to get 3 strikes.

Now I suppose the copyright holder could sue me, but it's hard to sue someone who doesn't have shit...
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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)  
 To:  ANT_THOMAS     
41273.28 In reply to 41273.22 
quote: ANT_THOMAS
ButTorrent LMAO

Sounds like the aftermath of a dodgy curry.

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 From:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41273.29 In reply to 41273.27 
someone who doesn't have shit...

Sounds like the aftermath of ButTorrent.

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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)     
41273.30 In reply to 41273.29 
(wrong)
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
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41273.31 
I wish it would have been for the Sopranos.  I'm sitting here ripping 6 seasons and one of my DVD's won't read an episode so I torrented it.  I'd send them a wordy email!  But no, it has to be a show that I can't prove I have rights to.  The pricks.

Anyway, looks like a one time warning doesn't /usually/ end up in court or with fines.
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 From:  Dave!!  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41273.32 In reply to 41273.21 
I've never had anything like that, but I tend to stick to a lot of private trackers, enforce encryption and use Peer Block (not sure if it does much good, but might as well!).

My sister did once get picked up by the infamous ACS Law over a torrent she downloaded. She was especially miffed as they complained over one of the music files in the torrent that she wasn't even bothered about (it was a compilation). Thankfully, the complaint was sent to my dad, who played the ignorant card that he was in his 60s and he'd never download modern pop music, and it strung out for several months of letters until ACS Law went bust and not a penny was paid in the end.

But personally, not had any letters yet........

Oh, and I second the ButTorrent thing :D
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41273.33 In reply to 41273.21 
Nope, never had anything like that.

I go through phases of torrenting - at the moment I'm torrenting /lots/ (mainly to avoid studying), other times I don't download stuff for months.

I do force encryption, but don't use peer block. And get all my torrents from the big bad bay in the sky (which, laughably, my ISP believe they've blocked :'D ). I also try to avoid downloading brand new shit - games and DVDs/BRs I usually wait till month or two after the release date before evening thinking about downloading them, and I never ever ever bother with cams & screeners.

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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  koswix     
41273.34 In reply to 41273.33 
But does encryption work?  You can still see every peer who is connected to the swarm.  And apparently that's all they need.  That's why I use NG.  A one on one connection with a secure pipe in between.
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41273.35 In reply to 41273.34 
No idea if it works, but I haven't had any nasty letters :D

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If Feds call you and say something bad on me, it may prove what I said are truth, they are afraid of it.
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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  koswix     
41273.36 In reply to 41273.35 
Me either, until today.  They must know my heel and back are broken, otherwise they'd never provoke a guntoter.  The pricks.
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 From:  Dave!!  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41273.37 In reply to 41273.34 
I've no idea either. What it does potentially do is weaken any possible evidence. And if you stand up to a bullying letter, the company ultimately has to eventually make a decision as to whether they have sufficient evidence to push it through the courts.

So, anything I can do to weaken this is a good thing IMO.
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 From:  koswix  
 To:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)     
41273.38 In reply to 41273.36 
I think the encryption thing is more to hide what you're doing from your ISP, so they can't throttle the traffic as easily.

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 From:  Ken (SHIELDSIT)  
 To:  koswix     Dave!!     
41273.39 In reply to 41273.37 
Both good points.  And I don't know how long they are going to pretend that an IP address works in court.  It's been shown many times that an IP address isn't a reliable way to identify someone.
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 From:  Chris (CHRISSS)   
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41273.40 
Woo hoo. Just got Transmission installed on my NAS. There is a package available from the web interface to install it. Nice and easy. Now I just click a magnet in Chrome, the Remote Transmission++ picks it up, click save, and all done. Much betterer.

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