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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   23 Feb 2018 20:24 
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It is not the stark choice between the past and the future we are presented with but a new complex moment of recycling the past and inventing possible futures. In a time where the future horizon has shrunk to that of the present and the past is endlessly memorialised, it is not a choice between a photographic past of representation and a future of immersive subjectivities. In the paradoxical present representations, data and code all multiply equally and exponentially.

https://thephotographersgallery.org.uk/viewpoints/2/co-creating-networks

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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)   24 Feb 2018 00:47 
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Hah! You obviously lack the transdisciplinary approach to understanding the interface between mathematical and cultural coding that is needed in order to engage productively with the flat topology of the computer screen.
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   24 Feb 2018 14:38 
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Yeah, well I ain't trans.
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 From:  william (WILLIAMA)   24 Feb 2018 15:30 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      4 of 13 
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Isn't that what I said?
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   24 Feb 2018 15:55 
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If you were able to slog through the jargon-laden screed and the other one it was a response to, there was a glimmer of a valid point or two buried in there, somewhere.
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 From:  Manthorp   25 Feb 2018 18:15 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      6 of 13 
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Needless complexity in critical writing generally signifies that the author isn't wholly confident about their subject.  Inevitably when any trade speaks to its peers there is complexity and jargon: but in this case there's an unhealthy dollop of artbollocks, too.
"We all have flaws, and mine is being wicked."
James Thurber, The Thirteen Clocks 1951
 
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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   26 Feb 2018 15:44 
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Photography (apart from the legacy-analog/digital-future thing these here dudes are talking about) seems to be attracting a cottage industry of self-described 'critical thinkers' (mainly academics) because, IMHO, the still photograph yields so little contextual information about a) the subject and b) the photographer's intentions, that it is effectively a blank slate upon which to project ... pretty much anything you can think of.
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 From:  Gobfounded (YVE)   28 Feb 2018 01:25 
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*cough*bullshit*cough*


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 From:  graphitone   28 Feb 2018 10:10 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      9 of 13 
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Can't the same be applied to any (static) visual art? Everything's open to interpretation, you can take as little or as much as you want from a painting/sculpture etc. Minimalist art offers even less context to the viewer.


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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   28 Feb 2018 18:12 
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The context of minimalist art, and other established/traditional creative genres is the gallery: a blank canvas in a store is a blank canvas, a blank canvas in a gallery showing is minimalist art.
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 From:  Peter (BOUGHTONP)   28 Feb 2018 23:03 
 To:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)      11 of 13 
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You do seem to be spouting elitist bullshit, but I may be mis-parsing what you wrote.

Would you care to clarify if/how you see putting a scribble in a room as art whilst a photograph is nothing?
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 From:  graphitone   28 Feb 2018 23:22 
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I agree somewhat - if something's in a gallery, then it's been defined as art, but the space isn't the context for the image, at least in the majority of cases. I guess there's an element of this gallery has this type of art or the gallery becomes part of the art, either in installations or literally as in the Work No. 227: The lights going on and off by Martin Creed, but other than that many galleries I've been to are agnostic of the work they display and will show many genres from the whole history of art.

That definition of art is based on decisions made by artists, their peers, critics and ultimately the public (who may or may not need telling what constitutes a piece of art. I'm giving people the benefit of the doubt). Then, given the thumbs up, that art is submitted and shown. Admittedly that's a fairly simplisitic way of looking at it, but y'know nutshells 'n that.

 


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 From:  CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)   1 Mar 2018 00:30 
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po-mo 'irony' transforms the most random of snapshots into high art indeed, to the cognoscenti. This is not something which occurs to common sense (whatever that is).

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