New PC-me-do

From: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)16 Feb 2020 00:54
To: william (WILLIAMA) 71 of 89
The T-Rex has been perched atop several past PCs - I won it in a Godzilla roaring competition at an art exhibition opening party in Bradford; the artist Kenneth Hung, curated by Teh Forum's very own Steve Manthorp, some time in, oooh, 2003, maybe?
From: william (WILLIAMA)16 Feb 2020 10:41
To: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ) 72 of 89
That's excellent and a very good reason to carry it forward. 
From: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)16 Feb 2020 12:15
To: ALL73 of 89
Next thing: I'm up and running, and everything *seems* to be working very nicely. Compared to the olden days, it's all so much easier. It took about 5 minutes to install Windows, and it recognised all the bits straight off, and there was no faffing around trying to download drivers from various places or right-clicking .inf files, or any of the other nonsense that setting up a PC used to involve.

Which leads me to my questions - I've been getting a nag box telling me that Nvidia control panel is not installed, and I just figured out how to stop the nag box (by disabling the " NVIDIA Display Container LS" service), and while I was tidying away the boxes the bits came in, I found a disk of motherboard drivers and utilities.

Is it worth installing any of this? I seem to remember that the additional "control panel" software for my previous graphics cards and motherboards gave access to some arcane features via gratuitously ugly interfaces designed by people who believed that rolling your own interface elements resulted in a far superior button than anything Micro$oft [sic] could produce.

I suppose it'd be useful to know about fan speeds and temperatures and frequencies and that kind of thing.
From: Chris (CHRISSS)16 Feb 2020 13:04
To: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ) 74 of 89
Most people recommend against installing software that comes with the motherboard, unless there's any useful stuff you want like fan control, etc. without needing to go into the BIOS.

But they do recommend installing the AMD chipset drivers which you can get the latest from AMD's website. It also gives you some extra AMD specific power profiles.

Did you install Nvidia drivers from their website or just let Windows install them for you?
From: william (WILLIAMA)16 Feb 2020 13:42
To: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ) 75 of 89
Whenever I built myself a new PC in the past, I ended up doing a kind of "Oh no, I wish I'd seen that," thing like when I saw the special offers on a slightly faster memory or the next CPU up. Any of that? Just mention it because I was poking around some of the products on your list and...
EDITED: 16 Feb 2020 13:43 by WILLIAMA
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)16 Feb 2020 13:50
To: william (WILLIAMA) 76 of 89
Comes with the territory.
From: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)16 Feb 2020 14:21
To: william (WILLIAMA) 77 of 89
Yeah, but that's always the case. Spent ages deliberating on whether to spend just a little bit more on, just about everything. Only thing I caved on was the Samsung drive - originally I went for something else, but when it turned out to be out of stock, I went for the full terrabyte of Samsung goodness.

If you've seen some amazing deal on something I could have got instead of one of the components, I don't want to know!
From: william (WILLIAMA)16 Feb 2020 14:25
To: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ) 78 of 89
That's what I thought. Who wants the Ryzen 7 2700X 8 Core 4.3GHz anyway?
From: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ)16 Feb 2020 14:42
To: william (WILLIAMA) 79 of 89
Yeah, but it's got LEDs in the cooler fan. Don't want that.
From: william (WILLIAMA)16 Feb 2020 15:00
To: Kenny J (WINGNUTKJ) 80 of 89
But you wouldn't...oh, hang on, clear acrylic side panel. Ah right. Looks like one of the stock AMD coolers. Also, the Gigabyte mobo might not be quite in the same class as the MSI. Nothing to choose between the Corsair or Crucial RAM, I wouldn't have thought. If it was me, I might be tempted by the bundle, but I would reuse my Corsair water cooler.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)18 Feb 2020 14:24
To: ALL81 of 89
So here's the definitive answer to the almost-matching ram stick part #s from Hyperx [Kingston] tech suppport:
 
Quote: 
Both memory have exact spec, speed, timing and profiles. However, they have different memory chips manufactures so they are not identical memory. They can run together in same channel but will not run at dual channel mode.

  (wrong)
From: Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)18 Feb 2020 17:02
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 82 of 89
EGGHUNT
GAUGETH
HUGGEST
HUGGETT
THUGGED
THUGGEE
HUGGIEST
THUGGEES
THUGGERY
THUGGIER
GUTHRIDGE
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GUNFIGHTERS
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From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)18 Feb 2020 17:17
To: Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ) 83 of 89
Gosh (I think it was meant as a string, not a collection of random characters).
EDITED: 18 Feb 2020 17:18 by DSMITHHFX
From: Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)18 Feb 2020 17:23
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 84 of 89
The website I cheated with stopped at 256 suggestions...I sense a limitation...
From: william (WILLIAMA)18 Feb 2020 17:26
To: Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ) 85 of 89
Every password you've used since "EGGHUNT" proved inadequate?
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)18 Feb 2020 17:38
To: Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ) 86 of 89
https://www.morewords.com/contains/gthegu
 
Every password you've used since "EGGHUNT" proved inadequate?

ERYTHROAGGLUTINATING looks pretty bulletproof to me.
EDITED: 18 Feb 2020 17:40 by DSMITHHFX
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)19 Feb 2020 18:26
To: ALL87 of 89
Just got the stick. NOW I HAVE TO MOVE SHIT AROUND TO INSTALL IT.

 :-((  :-((  :-((
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)23 Feb 2020 16:02
To: ALL88 of 89
Just bunged it in. So far all good (detected in Bios & FC26, not booted into Win7 yet).  (witch)
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 2 Mar 2020 11:38
To: ALL89 of 89
I didn't clear CMOS, so it took a while (& number of reboots) to confirm, but POST sez memory is in dual channel mode.  (bounce) Subjectively, it does feel faster to boot & load programs.