TV ethernet

From: ANT_THOMAS19 Jan 2017 10:09
To: koswix 20 of 49
I can't really complain about speeds either. No idea how busy the network is locally but when I moved in there wasn't any BT fibre, only about 4mbps ADSL so Virgin was the only reasonable option. If only the upload was better.
From: koswix19 Jan 2017 11:44
To: ANT_THOMAS 21 of 49
Getting the option of 1gbps synchronous soon :D
From: ANT_THOMAS19 Jan 2017 11:52
To: koswix 22 of 49
Cost? No chance of that near me. And I only bought the house because Virgin available. Some people thought I was stupid for not viewing houses with shit Internet, I refused to have any bathroom type issues!
From: graphitone19 Jan 2017 12:19
To: koswix ANT_THOMAS 23 of 49
Aye, I've been similarly benefitted by Virgin, internet access has always been reliable and fast. We downgraded to 50mb (from 100mb) a few months ago, the only thing I ever max out our connection with is Steam downloads and they're few and far between nowadays, but when I do I get the full download speed. We don't stream anything (yet), so the service is fine for what we use it for.

I've been looking into the Virgin V6 boxes which purports to do what Sky have been crowing about recently, recording on that device and stream to another (which will let me watch recorded shows on my PC). It does come with some caveats though:
 
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Virgin TV V6 box: Only available for customers with Mix TV package and above and Virgin Media broadband minimum VIVID 100 (up to 100 Mbps). Content available to view depends on your TV package. Virgin TV V6 box remains property of Virgin Media.

1Netflix subscription required at extra cost..

2To watch 4K Ultra HD shows, you’ll need a 4K Ultra HD compatible TV.

3Box Sets are only available with selected TV packs.

Virgin TV Anywhere & App: Content available to view depends on TV package. Not all channels/content from relevant pack available. Selected programmes may not be available to view. Live streaming and On Demand available in the UK with broadband or WiFi internet access only. Access via PC, Mac or TV Anywhere App (selected iOS devices and Android™ mobiles and tablets only). Virgin TV customers with a Virgin TV V6 box can stream or download selected recorded programmes on the Virgin TV Anywhere App on selected devices (this feature is not accessible via PC or Mac) see virginmedia.com/help/tvanywhere for further details.  Minimum 800Kbps recommended per device accessing the service concurrently. Maximum of 2 devices per account can watch TV.  On Demand only available to M+ or Mix TV packages and above. Visit virginmedia.com for full terms and conditions..

From: koswix19 Jan 2017 12:43
To: graphitone 24 of 49
My contract is up with virgin this month, considering ditching the telly entirely - but suspect that will cost more because of stupid pricing.

Also need to ring them about my other account (at mum's house, was easier to leave it in my name then change it!), currently paying 35 a month for 20mb broadband only. Their minimum package now is 34 quid for 50mb :@
From: koswix19 Jan 2017 13:14
To: ANT_THOMAS 25 of 49
Not sure yet, not cheap I'd guess.

It's these guys laying fibre, might be coming near you?

https://www.cityfibre.com/network/
From: william (WILLIAMA)19 Jan 2017 16:08
To: graphitone 26 of 49
I'm supposed to be getting a V6 box this afternoon - not convinced the engineer will turn up though as the ordering and delivery system is a bit fucked up at present. I ordered online last week and got an appointment for Monday with an email about the prices etc. Engineer never arrived and when I phoned to ask why, I was told there was no record of my ever placing an order. 

That's why I was looking at network speeds for the telly. They were prattling on about having the cable modem next to the V6 box, but since all my cables are tucked away under floors with hardwood on top, and my modem is in a different room with a couple of servers, it's not exactly easy to move around. Apparently all they need is a decent network link and I was able to thread an additional ethernet cable though and stick a gigabit switch on it - and so on and so on...
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)19 Jan 2017 16:29
To: koswix 27 of 49
quote: koswix
a 4 gig update.

wtf?

From: koswix19 Jan 2017 18:32
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 28 of 49
Yup. I hate modern console games for that.

Got a new controller at Xmas, connected it up and the xbox immediate says "your controller needs an update...". Wtf! It's a Fucking controller! What are they doing with the update, adding more buttons?
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)19 Jan 2017 20:57
To: koswix 29 of 49
Can they not do deltas?
From: koswix20 Jan 2017 01:13
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 30 of 49
Was the first time launching the game, so likely that it was actually downloading most of the game - not sure of the reasoning but when you install a game it normally doesn't install the game data until you launch the game itself. Like its Fucking surprised that you paid for a game and then wanted to play it.

Disvlaimer: I bought/installed the game for my birthday, last January. Got round to playing it in December
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)20 Jan 2017 01:39
To: koswix 31 of 49
Ah, yeah that's plausible.
From: william (WILLIAMA)20 Jan 2017 09:36
To: koswix 32 of 49
Curiously, the calendar app on my phone has a note of your birthday, but not my g/f of 35 years.
From: koswix20 Jan 2017 09:46
To: william (WILLIAMA) 33 of 49
Do you need my address to post the present?

From: koswix20 Jan 2017 09:47
To: william (WILLIAMA) 34 of 49
Actually, what date does it have? Can probably work out which service it was scraped from by the fake date.
From: william (WILLIAMA)20 Jan 2017 15:17
To: koswix 35 of 49
1/1
From: koswix20 Jan 2017 15:26
To: william (WILLIAMA) 36 of 49
That's been scraped from my Google account somehow then.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)20 Jan 2017 16:20
To: william (WILLIAMA) 37 of 49
What a coincidence! That's my internet birthday too.
From: william (WILLIAMA)20 Jan 2017 17:25
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 38 of 49
Well, a very happy internet birthday to both of you for 19 days ago.

In other news, I did eventually contact LG.

Scott, whoever he is, confirmed that there is not a utility or built in way to accurately determine the network speed at an LG TV. He also stated that the network hardware is "not advanced as PC hardware and this does bottleneck speeds to the TV". 

He had a peculiar idea that domestic network speeds are unlikely to reach the 155 mbps that my laptop reported. Fair enough, I don't know where he works. Maybe wherever he is, that sounds implausible. He also answered my query as though I was talking about wireless connections, which, as I talked throughout about connecting with a patch cable, didn't fill me with confidence in his attention to detail.

What annoyed me most was "TVs are designed for non commercial use and also are designed to be TVs". It's obviously (patronisingly) true, but this particular set is marketed as being up to handling a network stream reliably for 4K resolution video. What's more, since it came with an eye-watering price tag that hoovered up a big chunk of my pension pot, I expect it to deliver on that marketing.

I was so annoyed by this that I pressed the "not satisfied with reply" button which pulled up a text box to respond. But fittingly this feature refused to send after I had typed a reply.
EDITED: 20 Jan 2017 18:49 by WILLIAMA
From: william (WILLIAMA)20 Jan 2017 18:45
To: graphitone 39 of 49
Incidentally, Mr G, the V6 is a vast improvement on the previous Tivo box. It's much, much quicker. Whereas I used to set aside a good 3 to 5 minutes to get a film playing in Netflix, or catch up on iPlayer, it's pretty much instantaneous now. It also records up to 6 channels simultaneously if you're an insane telly watcher. 4K output is standard to a 4K telly.

What really lets it down is the streaming. This is clumsy, restricted and plagued with software errors. It's a struggle to get it running on more than one device. And don't expect this device to keep streaming when you want it either. Virgin know about these problems but the company line appears to that since TV Anywhere is free (????) fixes are low priority.

Oh yes, and you CAN'T stream recordings from the V6 to a PC. You can only stream the recordings to a phone or similar device.
EDITED: 20 Jan 2017 18:49 by WILLIAMA