My mouse sucks. But if I got a better one, I'd have no excuse :-{)

I keep seeing you playing L4D2 when I'm playing other games. Play when I am not playing another game so I can join you.

I know very little about these things these days, but do you think with the quality of LCDs these days you'll actually be able to tell the difference?

Maybe a few years ago, but has LCD tech really improved so much? Response times are tiny all round.

OK, is it you always playing that soccer-car game?

Yes it is.

For anyone but a CS pro response times are fine on all panels, yeah (VA and similar tech aside).

Can definitely tell the difference in contrast and colours and that though. But then very few panels are really pure TN or IPS, there's a lot of kinda hybrid techs that don't really fit in either category.

But yeah, I think unless you're buying at the super cheap end, a monitor is a monitor to a large extent these days. They're all good. Which is why they're trying to differentiate with absurd resolutions and high refresh rates and Gsync/Freesync etc..

For me, resolution and display quality wins every day over refresh speed. I've never used a modern 60Hz TFT and thought it's slow, jerky, ghosty or whatever.

OK, I'm playing most weeknights from ~5:45-6:45p EST, but lately I've been going back and forth on GRAWF2 for the slower, methodical pace.

Not sure how that would work actually as I pause the game frequently to make/monitor supper. Might be able to get mrs.d to cover for me one night.

Probly better to set up a weekend time where I could play for ~an hour uninterrupted. Also be good to work out a teamspeak mode (see, I bought this headset). They do xp and linux clients along with the usual suspects, but someone has to run a server. The other thing you mentioned don't do xp.

We all need to get together and play something again.  That used to be a blast!

Yep.

I'm up for some Vroom too.

Sounds good to me. Discord is the way to go for voice (I already have a teh server (which you're already in so it turns out I didn't need to mention that)).

I remember back before TFT when there was a clear difference between 60Hz and 85Hz, and it was worth switching down to 16-bit colour to get the higher refresh rate.

(I also remember regularly whipping all your arses at /real/ CS, but I coulda done that with 40Mhz too.)

CRT pixels refresh (pretty much) instantaneously between states whereas TFT pixels kinda fade in and out so the flicker is far less evident.

 

I thought it was to do with the way they are addressed. A TFT pixel only changes if it needs to (as in, as long as the voltage is applied the pixel is lit), whereas a CRT pixel has to be relit every frame (unless it's black).

I think both are true. And I think CRTs also scan differently...?

Video here of a CRT refreshing at different slow mo speeds.

https://youtu.be/8sThyWQC4RY

And an extra slow one here

https://youtu.be/2nQ_gEJ6B4A

LCD would be lit the whole time. Unless the back light flickers to reduce the brightness.

Something to do with persistence of vision in the eyes too. A CRT burns your retina for a shorter amount of time each frame so moving objects don't persist in your eyes as long and are less blurry. I think.

Thanks all

I have a mate coming around on the weekend to get a second opionion whilst I test between the two. I shall report back my findings then.

I am leaning towards the Dell monitor just because it looks so damn good.

Ah, the power of cookies. After reading this thread and checking your two links, Amazon offered to sell me the Dell when I logged into Facebook this morning.

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