Res vs Hz

From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 4 May 2016 19:27
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 13 of 33
Yes it is.
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 4 May 2016 19:31
To: ANT_THOMAS 14 of 33
For anyone but a CS pro response times are fine on all panels, yeah (VA and similar tech aside).

Can definitely tell the difference in contrast and colours and that though. But then very few panels are really pure TN or IPS, there's a lot of kinda hybrid techs that don't really fit in either category.

But yeah, I think unless you're buying at the super cheap end, a monitor is a monitor to a large extent these days. They're all good. Which is why they're trying to differentiate with absurd resolutions and high refresh rates and Gsync/Freesync etc..
EDITED: 4 May 2016 19:31 by X3N0PH0N
From: Dave!! 4 May 2016 19:44
To: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX) 15 of 33
For me, resolution and display quality wins every day over refresh speed. I've never used a modern 60Hz TFT and thought it's slow, jerky, ghosty or whatever.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 4 May 2016 19:57
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 16 of 33
OK, I'm playing most weeknights from ~5:45-6:45p EST, but lately I've been going back and forth on GRAWF2 for the slower, methodical pace.

Not sure how that would work actually as I pause the game frequently to make/monitor supper. Might be able to get mrs.d to cover for me one night.

Probly better to set up a weekend time where I could play for ~an hour uninterrupted. Also be good to work out a teamspeak mode (see, I bought this headset). They do xp and linux clients along with the usual suspects, but someone has to run a server. The other thing you mentioned don't do xp.
From: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 4 May 2016 20:26
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 17 of 33
We all need to get together and play something again.  That used to be a blast!
From: graphitone 4 May 2016 21:05
To: Ken (SHIELDSIT) 18 of 33
Yep.

I'm up for some Vroom too.
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 4 May 2016 23:58
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 19 of 33
Sounds good to me. Discord is the way to go for voice (I already have a teh server (which you're already in so it turns out I didn't need to mention that)).
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 5 May 2016 00:47
To: ALL20 of 33
I remember back before TFT when there was a clear difference between 60Hz and 85Hz, and it was worth switching down to 16-bit colour to get the higher refresh rate.

(I also remember regularly whipping all your arses at /real/ CS, but I coulda done that with 40Mhz too.)

EDITED: 5 May 2016 00:48 by BOUGHTONP
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 5 May 2016 01:16
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 21 of 33
CRT pixels refresh (pretty much) instantaneously between states whereas TFT pixels kinda fade in and out so the flicker is far less evident.

 
From: koswix 5 May 2016 03:33
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 22 of 33
I thought it was to do with the way they are addressed. A TFT pixel only changes if it needs to (as in, as long as the voltage is applied the pixel is lit), whereas a CRT pixel has to be relit every frame (unless it's black).
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 5 May 2016 04:25
To: koswix 23 of 33
I think both are true. And I think CRTs also scan differently...?
From: Chris (CHRISSS) 5 May 2016 07:42
To: koswix 24 of 33
Video here of a CRT refreshing at different slow mo speeds.

https://youtu.be/8sThyWQC4RY

And an extra slow one here

https://youtu.be/2nQ_gEJ6B4A
From: Chris (CHRISSS) 5 May 2016 07:46
To: Chris (CHRISSS) 25 of 33
LCD would be lit the whole time. Unless the back light flickers to reduce the brightness.

Something to do with persistence of vision in the eyes too. A CRT burns your retina for a shorter amount of time each frame so moving objects don't persist in your eyes as long and are less blurry. I think.
From: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX) 5 May 2016 08:40
To: ALL26 of 33
Thanks all

I have a mate coming around on the weekend to get a second opionion whilst I test between the two. I shall report back my findings then.

I am leaning towards the Dell monitor just because it looks so damn good.
From: william (WILLIAMA) 5 May 2016 09:24
To: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX) 27 of 33
Ah, the power of cookies. After reading this thread and checking your two links, Amazon offered to sell me the Dell when I logged into Facebook this morning.
From: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX) 5 May 2016 12:40
To: william (WILLIAMA) 28 of 33
They love you!
From: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX)11 May 2016 10:56
To: ALL29 of 33
Well I went for the Dell in the end, its rather spashing to play games on AND has I found a cheap monitor arm on Amazon I decided to free my desk of all monitor stands, no idea why I didn't do this years ago.

Now, where did I put that revision time table (checks bin)

​Cheers all
From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)12 May 2016 17:54
To: Wattsy (SLAYERPUNX) 30 of 33
Yeah, I've been using a two-arm desktop clamping stand for a few years as well, it's so much better than having stands... I really wouldn't mind a new monitor to be honest - I've got a couple of 22" 1080 LG IPS thingies, which are honestly fine for me, but the lure of a single ~30" 4K display is so "ooooohhh!"
From: milko12 May 2016 21:05
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 31 of 33
I know this is mental right. but I have a 30" display and I think my next one might be smaller. Obviously it's great for gaming, but for actual standard desktop use I do find myself having to actually look for things and move my head and that.
From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)16 May 2016 12:44
To: milko 32 of 33
Actually, not mental at all.. I find I have to do that with my two 21" screens - so I guess a 27" 4K display would actually be a good "compromise" *cough*.