From: graphitone16 Feb 2016 21:01
To: ALL1 of 23
Anyone bought anything from them before? I've been tempted by Project Cars, but not at the silly price steam seem to have it for at the moment. G2A have it for a more reasonable amount, but I've never got anything from them before and doubt their veracity.
EDITED: 16 Feb 2016 23:33 by GRAPHITONE
From: milko16 Feb 2016 23:21
To: graphitone 2 of 23
I think they're usually OK. Are they the ones that offer an extra guarantee for a few pence more? That always strikes me as dodgy.
From: graphitone16 Feb 2016 23:31
To: milko 3 of 23
Yeah, that's right. I wonder what you get for those few pence extra?! Why aren't the 'standard' purchases also guaranteed, and assuming they aren't, why let those people post their wares on the site? Is it to get people to buy, they then don't get a code and the site hopes they can't be arsed to argue over £5 (or whatever amount), they get their cash leaving a trail of disgruntled people...
EDITED: 16 Feb 2016 23:32 by GRAPHITONE
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)17 Feb 2016 02:42
To: graphitone 4 of 23
Never heard of this outfit. WTF is a steam random key?
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)17 Feb 2016 05:49
To: graphitone 5 of 23
G2A is dodgy as fuck, yeah. They're essentially just key marketplaces. People buy games when/where they're cheap (either bundles and sales or just in places where games are much cheaper due to regional pricing) and G2A essentially acts like ebay, matching up buyers and sellers.

The extra you pay is to protect you against fraudulent sales and region-locked keys. Otherwise you take your chances.

A slightly less dodgy (in that only one third party is profiting instead of two) is just to buy games from overseas stores like Nuuvem.

It's complicated though. I think we'd all agree that regional pricing is a good thing - games *should* be cheaper in places where incomes are much lower. Taking advantage of that as a person in the first world (and potentially jeopardising it) is quite a twattish thing to do.

On the other hand anyone *should* be able to do whatever they like with software they buy, including selling it.

I'd steer clear and use isthereanydeal instead.
From: graphitone17 Feb 2016 09:23
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 6 of 23
Cheers dude.
The extra you pay is to protect you against fraudulent sales and region-locked keys.
So, on a simple level, they should be able to refund you should something go awry.

Given all that, I'll give it a miss and wait for it in a Steam sale.  :-Y

EDITED: 19 Feb 2016 11:27 by GRAPHITONE
From: graphitone17 Feb 2016 09:24
I guess Steam'll spit out a random game at you when you redeem the code?
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)17 Feb 2016 10:57
To: graphitone 8 of 23
It's currently ~£20 here which isn't bad. From what I've heard (and having played its predecessors) I'm not convinced it's worth it though. The open world stuff sounds great but is actually pretty shit. Probably better off just getting GRID Autosport if you fancy some vrooom. Or Rocket League of course.
From: milko17 Feb 2016 11:16
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 9 of 23
what's your take on cdkeys.com? I think they're a bit less dodgy in that they do their own selling rather than being a marketplace, but I still wonder about the provenance of some of the keys. Still, they seem reliable and usually cheap and you can get 5% off by 'liking' them on Facebook and then unliking them and doing it again next time.

I use isthereanydeal.com as well, hooked up to the Steam wishlist it's pretty handy.
From: koswix17 Feb 2016 11:22
To: milko 10 of 23
I've used CD Keys and at first I thought they had some fancy graphics for showing you the key, then I looked closer and realised that it's an actual scan of an actual key-card (think that was for Fifa 16 on the Xbone).

Previously I was happy to assume they were getting the codes cheap from other regions etc., but an actual card? I'd be more inclined to think the cards were stolen. Hopefully MS/Steam/Sony have a way of cancelling stolen codes (I remember selling phone top-up vouchers in sainsburys, we had to keep meticlous records of what serials we had) and I'm just being paranoid...
From: milko17 Feb 2016 12:23
To: koswix 11 of 23
Nah, I think they just hoover up cheap stock somewhere, possibly a bit dodgy but not so far as to be actually stolen. OEM discs and things like that.
From: koswix17 Feb 2016 12:25
To: milko 12 of 23
That's what I'll keep believing... (nod)
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)17 Feb 2016 12:56
To: milko 13 of 23
I bought from them once not realising they were a 3rd party reseller. Got an email of photo of a Steam Key off the back of a retail copy of whatever it was (nod)

I don't like anything that takes advantage of regional pricing to make games cheaper for us in The West. Then again it touches on ownership and also if I buy a game from Nuuvem then some of my money is going into the Brazillian economy which is kinda cool. It's complicated and messy.
From: graphitone18 Feb 2016 13:51
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 14 of 23
I've actually got a few other car games to occupy me.  :-$

I got bored of GRID, but got GRID2 in Humble Bundle and the handling's all different to the point where I'm struggling even with a wheel. I'm enjoying F1 2014, though it took some time to get the wheel setup properly.

I liked the sound of the 'open world' race-anything-you-want custom races, but I guess it's like Minecraft, without a specific goal in mind you're left to your own discipline to control the direction of the game, which for some people is great and they have a fun and creative time and for others it just becomes a vacant shell with lots to do but no motivation behind it. I'm not sure what camp I'll fall into with a racing game over something more inherently biased towards creativity like Minecraft, hence trying to pick it up on the cheap.
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)18 Feb 2016 14:01
To: graphitone 15 of 23
Yeah, GRID 2 was generally panned. They went in the direction of trying to have broader appeal and ended up just killing what it was that people liked about the game. GRID Autosport is generally considered a return to form.

I'm not really all that fond of TOCA engine games but of all the ones I've played I like GRID Autosport by far the best.

I've just realised you're talking about Project Cars... I was thinking of The Crew (and the Test Drive Unlimited games) for some reason. So yeah, disregard everything I said about Project Cars, I've not played it (though from what I've seen it looks more like a car porn generator than an actual game -_- )

From: graphitone18 Feb 2016 14:42
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 16 of 23

I've no idea about The Crew or Testdrive.

I've been looking at in game videos of Project Cars and the weather system looks great. I'm sure that's not it's only selling point, but it's something reviewers seem to latch onto.
From: milko18 Feb 2016 17:50
To: graphitone 17 of 23
I can't get into circuit racing games really. Drive as fast as you can! Oh no, you went too fast and crashed! Do it again but slightly slower! 

Yet for some reason I really enjoy Dirt Rally which is the same thing and really punishing. Maybe because I don't feel any urge to learn the stages, just rely on the pace notes co-driver guy. 

Other than that I enjoy driving very slowly and getting stuck in Spintires, and getting into massive pileups in Wreckless.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)18 Feb 2016 18:02
To: milko 18 of 23
Wrecking the other [bot] drivers' cars was the best thing about NFSPU.
From: graphitone18 Feb 2016 18:08
To: milko 19 of 23
:D Do you get to race against a number of other cars in Dirt Rally, or is it you vs the stage?

My all time favourite racer is TOCA2 (the original series) I got a copy off eBay not so long ago and played through it start to finish. It's ropey compared to modern games, but it really gets the rough and tumble close quarters racing. I remember Rally Trophy being ace as well.

I quite like circuit racing, as there's a only a number of corners you've got to learn how to take, you can learn them in 15mins but beyond that it's like you say, getting the right balance of speed and control to do it well, which is enjoyable, providing the game and controller are working properly. I've done a bit of jumping from game to game and the difference in how the wheel feels is immense. It's really stiff (no matter how much tweaking I do) in F1 2014, the Grid games are fairly skittish and it just won't work in Colin McCrae Rally. It only seems to support turning left while going backwards... :(

From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)18 Feb 2016 18:09
To: milko 20 of 23
And driving a car into a ball and making it go into a goal. At various speeds. Sometimes backwards. Often driving in the air.

Literally the best driving game.