Dumb question

From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)20 May 2015 18:22
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 8 of 58
Holy crap!  :-O
From: fixrman21 May 2015 02:34
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 9 of 58
They can hit all the deer they want with the cruiser any early morning or evening. Fat asses can stay in the car eating doughnut.
From: fixrman21 May 2015 11:41
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 10 of 58
Actually I'd have thought that someone from the U.K., being somewhat more socially advanced than the U.S., would not be using such a disparaging and ironically insulting term as "nigger".
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)21 May 2015 13:07
To: fixrman 11 of 58
I shit on political correctness.

Just as I detest the hijacking of the word 'gay' by the homosexual community.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)21 May 2015 15:35
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 12 of 58
You shit on yourself.  Seriously, stuff like that could be career-limiting.
From: graphitone21 May 2015 15:41
To: fixrman 13 of 58
I reckon it's that we've developed a different vernacular, but the words we use are just as disparaging a term(s). Nigger's a very Americanised word and while it's no doubt used the English speaking world over it's not utilised that much here when wanting to sound racist/shock people. From my own experience, I hear it used in American music and from American comedians, but rarely elsewhere. In the racist times I know about (my parent's generation growing up in the 50s and 60s) terms like wop and wog were bandied about with abandon, they were used on prime time BBC for feck's sake. There's an episode of Fawlty Towers (late 70s show, I think) where the Major refers to black people as 'wogs'. Then came a kind of national embarrassment about it all and it was decreed that those terms were pretty awful and things got banned, like golliwogs. They used to be the logo for Robinson's marmalade and featured in loads of Enid Blyton stories, often, unfortunately, as a perpetrator/instigator of some mischievous toyland crime.

Anywho, they were 'our' words to describe the sort of person people in America would use to describe the sort of person in question and they were definitely more prevalent before the taboos kicked in.
EDITED: 22 May 2015 08:31 by GRAPHITONE
From: graphitone21 May 2015 15:43
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 14 of 58
Not to mention unhygienic.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)21 May 2015 17:10
To: graphitone 15 of 58
The revisionists have rewritten Enid Blyton's works to take out anything offensive like golliwogs. Pity they can't do the same to Jeremy Clarkson really, there'd be nothing left.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)21 May 2015 17:13
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 16 of 58
I shit on political correctness.
You shit on yourself.

No, on political correctness. I am not politically correct, nor am I political correctness itself. Ergo, I do not shit on myself and your assertion is, accordingly, bollocks.

From: graphitone21 May 2015 17:23
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 17 of 58
(giggle)

Shurley there must have been other children's writers that included references to golliwogs. Wonder if they got the same attention? Or was Enid the only racist out there? I know from a recent edition we've got, her 'Faraway Tree' books have had a character name edited from Fanny to Franny. Less contentious, but shows the progress the easily offended have made. That said language is always evolving and what meant one thing back in Enid's day can and does mean something different nowadays. Something has to give and to be honest I'm not so entrenched in nostalgia and rose tint that I couldn't bear her hallowed tomes from ever being changed from the original.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)21 May 2015 17:38
To: graphitone 18 of 58

You can tell her books are old fashioned because Mr Policeman doesn't shoot the golliwogs.

quote: graphitone
I'm not so entrenched in nostalgia and rose tint that I couldn't bear her hallowed tomes from ever being changed from the original.

I'm not particularly entrenched in nostalgia, and I find her writing a bit excruciating now TBH, but changing her words to suit political correctness or modern social mores is just plain wrong IMO. It would be like covering Michelangelo's David because he's showing his 'thingy'.

What are they going to do with Fanny By Gaslight?

EDITED: 21 May 2015 17:39 by MR_BASTARD
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)21 May 2015 17:41
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 19 of 58
Your funeral, your way.

 :-&
From: graphitone21 May 2015 20:20
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 20 of 58
That's similar to what some olden days people did with statues around the Vatican. Some overly pious types decided willies weren't appropriate and chopped them off.
EDITED: 22 May 2015 08:38 by GRAPHITONE
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)21 May 2015 20:48
To: graphitone 21 of 58
And that was just the choir.
From: graphitone21 May 2015 21:36
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 23 of 58
Were they not more concerned with the balls department? But I see what you're getting at.  :-Y
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)21 May 2015 23:40
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 24 of 58
If someone is actually from Nigeria, is it still ok to call them a chinky paki abo scouser kiwi coconut yankee kraut sprout, or would that be bad?
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)22 May 2015 01:33
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 25 of 58
I dunno.

Is it OK for bastard to address his daughters as "bitches", "sluts", "cunts", "tarts", "holes" or "whores", or would that be "politically incorrect"?
EDITED: 22 May 2015 01:34 by DSMITHHFX
From: fixrman22 May 2015 01:33
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 26 of 58
Quote: 
  I shit on political correctness.

I get that and I share your disdain for things PC... But where does it end then?

 

Quote: 
I detest the hijacking of the word 'gay' by the homosexual community.

I guess they took upon that one due to the usual words to describe them: "Fem", "Queer", "Backbiter", "Homo", "Twink", "Pretty Boy", "Silly boy", "Pansy". "Sword-Swallower", "Periwinkle", et. al. It sounds so much more "acceptable" I guess. The girls are not outdone with, "Dyke", "Carpet-muncher", "Butch", "Lez"(Lezzie, Lezbe, Lesbo), Bean flicker, Kitty-puncher...

Gay is also only one syllable.

From: fixrman22 May 2015 01:38
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX) 27 of 58
Maybe get a curling iron so they can be nappy-headed hoes.