obama's speech

From: fixrman12 Sep 2014 03:43
To: ALL1 of 88
Anybody hear his speech on how he wants to fire rockets into Iraq and Syria?

He's going to send 475 U.S. Service members to coach the Iraqi/Kurdish forces. I'll bet they're really excited about that. I mean, 475! That's nearly 500 guys directing traffic from an air conditioned building or tent. ISIS (let's call them DAIISH from now on) only has between 20,000 - 31,500 fighters that can be mustered.

Maybe obama will pop in one day in early October with apple cider and spiced wafers. What a treat!
EDITED: 12 Sep 2014 03:53 by FIXRMAN
From: ANT_THOMAS12 Sep 2014 07:18
To: fixrman 2 of 88
What would you recommend?
From: Queeg 500 (JESUSONEEZ)12 Sep 2014 11:14
To: ANT_THOMAS 3 of 88
All out nuclear retaliation.

Should do the job.
From: fixrman12 Sep 2014 12:25
To: ANT_THOMAS 4 of 88
Maggie Thatcher.

I asked for opinion from over there.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)12 Sep 2014 12:36
To: fixrman 5 of 88
Too late, she's dead.
From: fixrman12 Sep 2014 16:49
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 6 of 88
Politically speaking, obama is too.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)12 Sep 2014 19:28
To: fixrman 7 of 88
There might be some who disagree with you there. But I cannot say I follow US politics enough to have an opinion.
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)12 Sep 2014 19:52
To: fixrman 8 of 88
As Nigel, I don't really follow American politics except during elections and when they're doing something *particularly* stupid.

This just looks like America Americaing as usual.
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)12 Sep 2014 22:45
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 9 of 88
quote: X3N0PH0N
As Nigel, I don't really follow American politics, except ...

Fixed that missing comma for you Andrew. I never follow merkin politics, largely because, although they affect us, we have no influence over the votes of retards. Chads, anyone?

From: fixrman12 Sep 2014 23:16
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 10 of 88
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  There might be some who disagree with you there.

They are getting harder to find, just like when Clinton was on the ropes -the deserters are many and far away.
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But I cannot say I follow US politics enough to have an opinion.

I thought he was so highly regarded over there, early on? Guess the bloom fell off the rose quickly.

From: fixrman12 Sep 2014 23:20
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 11 of 88
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when they're doing something *particularly* stupid.

Do you judge the above with your own Parliament in mind as an example, or what is it you base "particularly stupid" on? Not that there haven't been many stupid things done, but our viewpoints on that might be widely divergent. What was something done you felt particularly stupid.

From: fixrman12 Sep 2014 23:23
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 12 of 88
If you don't follow American politics, what do you think you know about chads?
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)12 Sep 2014 23:30
To: fixrman 13 of 88
More by historical American foreign and domestic policy/practise.

The Ferguson stuff was above the baseline, for example.
From: Lucy (X3N0PH0N)12 Sep 2014 23:35
To: fixrman 14 of 88
(The most pressingly stupid thing the US does currently, to my mind, is incarcerating a far greater proportion (by like 3x) of its people than any other comparable western democratic state. And imprisoning a statistically indefensible proportion of its non-white citizenry, often with longer sentences than whites get etc. etc.. If people started caring about that and that became a news story then I'd certainly be interested)
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)13 Sep 2014 08:03
To: fixrman 15 of 88
quote: fixrman

I thought he was so highly regarded over there, early on? Guess the bloom fell off the rose quickly.

You're assuming that I ever regarded him. I can only speak for me, there may be millions out here who worship the ground he walks on; but I'm not one, nor have I ever been.

From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)13 Sep 2014 08:04
To: fixrman 16 of 88
quote: fixrman
If you don't follow American politics, what do you think you know about chads?

My understanding is that's how the retards in Florida voted Geedubbya in.

Clarification: the position of most powerful leader in the West was donated to a buffoon on the basis that Floridians couldn't properly punch a hole in paper. At least that how (I recall) it was told at the time.

But that's the problem with democracy. Most of the time it's swung by bottom feeders who should just be doped up to the eyeballs and stuck in front of lobotomy TV rather than being allowed to do something vaguely responsible like vote. Or, worse, socialists.

EDITED: 13 Sep 2014 12:50 by MR_BASTARD
From: fixrman13 Sep 2014 13:09
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 17 of 88
Ferguson is not a good example of American political practice, it is a law enforcement issue. It is an example of nothing really until the whole story is revealed. I live a lot closer and have followed some of it. We are not getting the full story by any measure and neither are you.
From: fixrman13 Sep 2014 13:24
To: Lucy (X3N0PH0N) 18 of 88
Well, first off we are not a democratic state, we are a Federal presidential Constitutional Republic comprised of 50 states, but you are not alone in making that mistake. Most of America does. Although we are moving more and more to Democracy, that is not our political model.

What country are you comparing the U.S. to? Not that I don't disagree with your assessment of our rates of imprisonment for blacks (I didn't think you meant any other minority) I'd like to know the comparison then I will give some opinion on why I think you are right on the imprisonment bit.
From: fixrman13 Sep 2014 17:20
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 19 of 88
Florida was a debacle as far as the voting goes, but point in fact that whole hanging chad/miscast vote bit had happened before(1996, 14,000 votes). If people had just taken a few seconds more to actually look at the ballot, they'd have voted properly. They also could have asked for a new ballot before leaving the voting boot. It was however a poorly designed ballot.

Adding to the maddening controversy was the fact that a Democrat, Theresa LePore,  designed the ballot and it was approved by both sides.
 
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But that's the problem with democracy. Most of the time it's swung by bottom feeders who should just be doped up to the eyeballs and stuck in front of lobotomy TV rather than being allowed to do something vaguely responsible like vote. Or, worse, socialists.
Are you including the population of Merry Olde England in that assessment, or is that something you reserve solely for Americans. Actually, Canada and Britain are considered more democratic than the U.S. is. We vote for a president, but a president is not necessarily elected by popular vote, it is decided by Electoral votes. So a guy like obama, who exploited inherent weaknesses in that system of election by concentrating on population centers to gain electoral votes, gets in power.
 
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the position of most powerful leader in the West was donated to a buffoon

As opposed to the buffoon in there now? Was there ever a POTUS you liked?

The alternative of course is to not vote which is ridiculous in my opinion, worse even than uninformed voting.
 

From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)13 Sep 2014 18:21
To: fixrman 20 of 88
quote: fixrman
 
Are you including the population of Merry Olde England in that assessment, or is that something you reserve solely for Americans. Actually, Canada and Britain are considered more democratic than the U.S. is. We vote for a president, but a president is not necessarily elected by popular vote, it is decided by Electoral votes. So a guy like obama, who exploited inherent weaknesses in that system of election by concentrating on population centers to gain electoral votes, gets in power.
 
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the position of most powerful leader in the West was donated to a buffoon

As opposed to the buffoon in there now? Was there ever a POTUS you liked?

I was particularly thinking of the population of Merrie Olde England (and its nearest neighbours).

POTUS that I liked? I guess Abe was pretty decent. Clinton...but she's not been elected yet.