Alan's Psychadelic Earthquake Breakfast

From: JonCooper 4 Aug 2012 16:09
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 56 of 392

what about the beaming technology? or was that just for shifting tectonic plates?

 

[edit] ah bugger, this was meant for PB

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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 16:56
To: JonCooper 57 of 392
You mean this:
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looks like they're using 2 or 3 beams to try and reposition the tectonic plate, with magma being forced Northward into the Kurils
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The Yank beam has been smoothing Alaska and letting California and Central America move in jolts.


Nothing to do with weather.

A quick search suggests that laser beams are used to measure the velocity of tectonic places - I didn't find anything to suggests that anyone is warming/cooling magma to try and change their movements.

If it was as widespread as "China, Japan, USA. Russia. also Oz, South Africa maybe, NATO, probably France, maybe Canada" doing it, then I would expect to find at least some hint of something.

*shrug*
From: JonCooper 4 Aug 2012 17:37
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 58 of 392
tbh, it all blends into one, so many odd thoughts at once
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 18:44
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 61 of 392
Awful
madly
water pit
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From: JonCooper 4 Aug 2012 19:17
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 62 of 392
just so's I know, do you think someone is doing this or are you just reporting events as they happen?
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From: DrBoff (BOFF) 5 Aug 2012 09:50
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 64 of 392

Hello.

 

I'm a planetary scientist. I know quite a bit about orbital cycles, tidal forces, geology and volcanology.

 

I have to admit that some of the facts that you present in that blog are plain wrong, or I would say they are unless you can provide references.

 

However, some of what you say is very interesting, scientifically sound and I've never heard before. I would be interested if you could provide some cross referenced data of things like eclipse/perigee times and earthquakes or point me in the direction of some.

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From: patch 5 Aug 2012 19:26
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 66 of 392
It's not "cross referenced data", either.
From: DrBoff (BOFF) 5 Aug 2012 19:39
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 67 of 392

I'm afraid I'm not going to find and buy a book, I'd prefer to look at data.

 

It's not "Just plain Newton's laws." Tidal stresses are not what causes volcanoes or earthquakes. They will have some effect, but not directly. That and the fact that the variation in tidal force is max about 15%, and that's when everything is lined up, which is basically never.

 

Seems like an oversimplified version of reality, really.

 

And I know it's not rocket science, it's far more complicated than that.

From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 5 Aug 2012 21:53
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 68 of 392
Have you ever read Erich von Däniken? He's another crackpot. My point being that just because someone writes a book, doesn't mean that they're an authoritative source:
Browning described his climatic theories and findings in Climate and the Affairs of Men, which he co-authored with Nels Winkless III and published in 1975. At that time, he believed that Earth had been through a long warm period and was moving into a dangerous cooling phase. He also declared that he had not detected any effect of human activity on the climate.

Do you consider it odd that his theories of global cooling are diametrically opposed to those of even a former climate sceptic?
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 5 Aug 2012 23:49
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 72 of 392
Three numbers ain't really data.

Also looking at Wolfram Alpha's graph suggests the sunspot peaks are on average every 10.5 years, which is supported by looking at data from Wikipedia stating 10.6 as a the mean.

So where does the 11.2 come from?
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 6 Aug 2012 01:50
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 74 of 392
Which of these is your favourite and why?

56622
61803
71828
14159
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From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 6 Aug 2012 02:10
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 75 of 392
Of course our "'human kind' era" has been temperate. If it hadn't, there wouldn't have been any such thing. If it hadn't been temperate then we wouldn't have developed agriculture.

(Which we actually did (at least) twice. There's evidence that we invented agriculture before the last proper ice age, then went back to sleep (not literally, obviously) when the ice came, then invented it again 2000 years later.)

A very small window to develop all this stuff we developed, really. We are inquisitive little monkeys.

I agree with what I think is implied in some of your posts - we don't really appreciate how precarious civilisation is. It would not really take a lot to send us right back to the stone age (having said that, we were far more technologically advanced during the stone age than people tend to think (I don't mean any 'the pyramids were really microwave generators' bullshit by that, I just mean that we weren't stereotypical cavemen during a lot of the neolithic - we had agriculture, trade (and possibly quite complex and intriguing invoicing/receipt/contract systems*), religion, lived in quite large towns/cities, were able to preserve food with salt, had diverse secondary products etc.))

Um, forgot what the point was. Water is sometimes drastically cooler than the air because it has a really fucking high specific heat capacity, that's no mystery is it?

Also we're putting a rather impressive robot on Mars in a few hours**, by hoisting it onto Mars' surface from a hovering rocket-platform 20m above the surface. That's pretty fucking amazing.

* The person sending the delivery out would (assuming the theory is correct, like) embed markers into the flat of a clay hemisphere indicating the products being transported (types and amounts) and what was owed in return, he would then imprint his identifying seal. Another hemisphere would be attached and the whole thing would then be sealed and would accompany the delivery and the receiver would break it open, being able to ensure that the person performing the delivery had not stolen anything and would know what goods were owed in return.
** Assuming the whole ridiculous plan works