Alan's Psychadelic Earthquake Breakfast

From: Dan (HERMAND) 4 Aug 2012 14:16
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 47 of 392
It's semantics, but I wouldn't really consider faffing around with clouds isn't really the same as making changes to a huge weather system. It's kind of like calling a bit of gardening terraforming.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 4 Aug 2012 14:19
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 48 of 392
What Dan said. 53 was implying a more profound weather control, talking about cloud systems over Island influencing weather in London.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 14:40
To: Dan (HERMAND) 49 of 392
The phrase "total control" (etc) exists because simply "control" itself is NOT defined as being absolute, or even significant.

Control is specifically described as "power to influence or guide" and "a means of limitation", and thus faffing with clouds is well within the acceptable description of "controlling the weather", because the weather was influenced and limited by not raining over the designated area.

Nobody made any claims about being in total control of huge weather systems.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 14:41
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 50 of 392
Was he? You're reading that the "massive weird" system (no mention of clouds) is being claimed to be man-made because you want to believe that (or at least believe that he believes it).

quote:
Beijing admitted it was controlling the weather for their Olympics, but all we see is a strange system over Eire, luckily keeping the weather reasonable for ours.

See?

You've already complained that he's acting too much like a fortune teller or astrologer, with wishy washy statements that don't mean anything, but now you're trying to pin down those statements by injecting them with your own meaning, instead of taking them at face value.
EDITED: 4 Aug 2012 14:41 by BOUGHTONP
From: Manthorp 4 Aug 2012 14:48
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 51 of 392
Presumably owning a hat is low level weather control.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 14:54
To: Manthorp 52 of 392
Especially one lined with tin or lead. :)
From: Manthorp 4 Aug 2012 15:03
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 53 of 392
As worn by every well-dressed Teher.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 4 Aug 2012 15:24
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 54 of 392
Contextually, it was implied.

Seeding clouds isn't controlling the weather in any meaningful sense, it's influencing it a bit.

I'm not injecting meaning, just trying to find some.

Really don't care enough to argue this and there's a thunderstorm so I'm going to walk in the rain (which I personally believe was caused by our secret overlords from Uranus).
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 15:37
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 55 of 392
If you see lightning coming towards you, give it a wave from me. :)
From: JonCooper 4 Aug 2012 16:09
To: Drew (X3N0PH0N) 56 of 392

what about the beaming technology? or was that just for shifting tectonic plates?

 

[edit] ah bugger, this was meant for PB

EDITED: 4 Aug 2012 16:10 by JONCOOPER
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 16:56
To: JonCooper 57 of 392
You mean this:
quote:
looks like they're using 2 or 3 beams to try and reposition the tectonic plate, with magma being forced Northward into the Kurils
...
The Yank beam has been smoothing Alaska and letting California and Central America move in jolts.


Nothing to do with weather.

A quick search suggests that laser beams are used to measure the velocity of tectonic places - I didn't find anything to suggests that anyone is warming/cooling magma to try and change their movements.

If it was as widespread as "China, Japan, USA. Russia. also Oz, South Africa maybe, NATO, probably France, maybe Canada" doing it, then I would expect to find at least some hint of something.

*shrug*
From: JonCooper 4 Aug 2012 17:37
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 58 of 392
tbh, it all blends into one, so many odd thoughts at once
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 4 Aug 2012 18:44
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 61 of 392
Awful
madly
water pit
.
From: JonCooper 4 Aug 2012 19:17
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 62 of 392
just so's I know, do you think someone is doing this or are you just reporting events as they happen?
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From: DrBoff (BOFF) 5 Aug 2012 09:50
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 64 of 392

Hello.

 

I'm a planetary scientist. I know quite a bit about orbital cycles, tidal forces, geology and volcanology.

 

I have to admit that some of the facts that you present in that blog are plain wrong, or I would say they are unless you can provide references.

 

However, some of what you say is very interesting, scientifically sound and I've never heard before. I would be interested if you could provide some cross referenced data of things like eclipse/perigee times and earthquakes or point me in the direction of some.

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From: patch 5 Aug 2012 19:26
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 66 of 392
It's not "cross referenced data", either.