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WTF?

From: Dan (HERMAND)22 Jan 2011 15:24
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 9 of 41
38134.9 In reply to 38134.7

I scan read the link, found the bit where you think microwaves are awfully dangerous. The page you linked to was even more crazy.

 

You really are a loon :'D

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From: Dan (HERMAND)24 Jan 2011 20:19
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 11 of 41
38134.11 In reply to 38134.10
Hertel explains, "Technically produced microwaves are based on the principle of alternating current. Atoms, molecules and cells hit by this hard electromagnetic radiation are forced to reverse polarity 1 to 100 billion times a second."

"There are no atoms, molecules or cells of any organic system able to withstand such a violent, destructive power for any extended period of time, not even in the low energy range of milliwatts.
(...) This is how microwave cooking heat is generated - friction from this violence in water molecules. Structures of molecules are torn apart, molecules are forcefully deformed (called structural isomerism) and thus become impaired in quality."

So it`s the water molecules in foods that are directly agitated first to produce frictional heat. Journalist Tom Valentine played devil`s advocate by posing this question: "What about microwaves from the sun? Are they harmful?"

Again, it`s the AC current propelling microwave ovens that create an extremely rapid polar shift of the subjected water molecules. Hertel went on to explain that the sun`s microwaves are based on a pulsating direct current. This type of microwave radiation doesn`t shear molecules because there is no rapid oscillation of polarity.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030651_microwave_cooking_cancer.html#ixzz1BywhzNGv


Seriously?
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From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)24 Jan 2011 21:22
To: Dan (HERMAND) 12 of 41
38134.12 In reply to 38134.11

Fucking hell. (fail)

 

Microwaves don't /have/ polarity. microwaves are microwaves, whatever the source. All they have is frequency and amplitude.

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From: steve24 Jan 2011 23:38
To: ALL14 of 41
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/ 8-O /
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From: Dan (HERMAND)24 Jan 2011 23:41
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 15 of 41
38134.15 In reply to 38134.13

There is fuck all reputable about that site, m'dear.

 

I won't be mailing though, reminds me of BourqueFan, but with more pseudoscience.

 

And what the hell is a food technician?

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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)24 Jan 2011 23:50
To: Dan (HERMAND) 16 of 41
38134.16 In reply to 38134.15
I'm a food technician.
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From: patch25 Jan 2011 00:25
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 17 of 41
38134.17 In reply to 38134.16
No. What you eat is technically food. It's not the same thing at all.
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From: JonCooper25 Jan 2011 01:24
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 18 of 41
38134.18 In reply to 38134.13
after glancing at your tips the other day I did check my lava lamp and it is definatly too hot to keep your hand on, which isn't bad for a tiny bulb - not too sure about heating the house that way mind
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From: ANT_THOMAS25 Jan 2011 01:47
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 19 of 41
38134.19 In reply to 38134.7
Just read your tips, and whilst I understand why people might use things like that to save a bit of money is it really a good way to live? Do you really enjoy basically getting rid of all of lifes luxuries?
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From: DrBoff (BOFF)25 Jan 2011 07:28
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 20 of 41
38134.20 In reply to 38134.12
quote:
Microwaves don't /have/ polarity.


Unfortunately, they do, at least a continually oscillating one.

Fortunately, everything else he says is total bollocks.
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From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)25 Jan 2011 08:42
To: DrBoff (BOFF) 21 of 41
38134.21 In reply to 38134.20
How does that work, then? And is there any difference between man-made and natural microwaves?
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From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)25 Jan 2011 08:45
To: ANT_THOMAS 22 of 41
38134.22 In reply to 38134.19
That's exactly what I was thinking as I read of the death of some US fitness guru, among whose pearls of wisdom were "If man makes it, don't eat it. If it tastes good, spit it out." OK, he lived to 96, but was it worth it?
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From: DrBoff (BOFF)25 Jan 2011 13:04
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 23 of 41
38134.23 In reply to 38134.21

All electromagnetic radiation is formed of a continually oscillating electric field vector (oscillating between +Amplitude and -Amplitude) with a magnetic field vector doing the same thing, but perpendicular to it.

 

Microwaves (and radio) are produced by oscillating electric charges. When the charges are moving one way it's a +ve current and -ve if the other way. Microwaves are microwaves, there only differences are the power and frequency.

 

In terms of what this guy's saying, microwaves only heat up food because they make polar molecules (like water) vibrate. They don't do anything to the internal workings of the molecule (unless it gets hot enough to break up).

 

Simply put, microwaves don't have enough energy to cause 'chemical' changes in atoms. This is how UV, XRay and Gamma causes cancer, by altering the chemistry of DNA molecules in your cells. There's no way microwaves can do that. It's possible that there may be another, more complicated mechanism that could be activated by them, but I doubt it.

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From: Dan (HERMAND)25 Jan 2011 13:15
To: DrBoff (BOFF) 24 of 41
38134.24 In reply to 38134.23
Essentially the difference between ionizing radiation and non? Or am I wrong?
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From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)25 Jan 2011 14:55
To: DrBoff (BOFF) 25 of 41
38134.25 In reply to 38134.23
Hmmmz, I never thought of amplitude as being polarity before. In that case, all light has polarity, no?
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From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)25 Jan 2011 14:58
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 26 of 41
38134.26 In reply to 38134.25
Yes it does, hence polaris(ed?)(ing?) filters.
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From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)25 Jan 2011 15:00
To: Serg (NUKKLEAR) 27 of 41
38134.27 In reply to 38134.26
But that's a different concept, isn't it? It refers to the direction that a wave is oriented (relative to a plane) rather than the amplitude. Unless that's what the Boffmeister was talking about.
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From: Serg (NUKKLEAR)25 Jan 2011 15:02
To: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD) 28 of 41
38134.28 In reply to 38134.27
I actually don't know (not without thinking so hard that it might make my brain hurt), I just felt like adding a little potential chaos to the world.
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