New PC help.

From: Username18 Oct 2007 16:51
To: ALL1 of 21

Well well well.

 

I got £200 notes to spend on a new Mobo, Cpu and Ram. Can you point me in the direction of good hardware.
The plan is, £80-100 for top notch CPU, and £40-50 for Ram and Mobo.
Dont need much AT ALL. Just PCI-E and DDR 2 support.. oh and one IDE for me sole HD and DVD device.
Im looking toward Intel Dual Core cause them PC Format folks seem to like em.
Then after X-Mas try and find a 320mb GeForce 8800 thingy to plonk in for top notch av'in it gaming action.

 

Ta in advance.

From: Username18 Oct 2007 16:56
To: Username 2 of 21

Forgot to mention my monitor situation.

 

Im still on 1024 x 768 (32bit) untill the foreseeable future. Even when I do eventually get a TFT, to replace this doggy poo poo 17" CRT.

 

At this Res, CPU is more important than GFX, no?

From: Username18 Oct 2007 18:12
To: ALL3 of 21
Hello?
From: koswix18 Oct 2007 18:15
To: Username 4 of 21

How many threads are you planning to start on this?!

 

As for the good hardware, try either www.ebuyer.com or www.dabs.com. I hear they both stock some pretty good stuff.

From: Username18 Oct 2007 18:31
To: koswix 5 of 21
quote:
How many threads are you planning to start on this?!

Just the one. This one.

quote:
As for the good hardware, try either www.ebuyer.com or www.dabs.com. I hear they both stock some pretty good stuff.


Im after advice mate, not supplier details.
From: koswix18 Oct 2007 21:49
To: Username 6 of 21
But I thought you were a hardware man? Don't you know all this stuff already?
From: Username18 Oct 2007 21:53
To: koswix 7 of 21
No.
From: Mal (BAD)18 Oct 2007 22:36
To: Username 8 of 21
If I were you I would trot along to overclockers and pick the bundle deal which most closely matches your requirements:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?&groupid=701&catid=339&sortby=priceAsc

Which appears to be:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5600+ 2.80GHz Retail / Asus M2N4-SLI / 2GB Corsair XMS2-6400C5 Dual Channel Kit - Bundle

for £191.49 + P&P
From: Username18 Oct 2007 23:08
To: Mal (BAD) 9 of 21

Thanks.
Im maybe thinking faster CPU, 1G 800mhz DDR 2 RAM, and no SLI support.

 

Im waiting for Aria to get more £12 1G DDR2 800mhz in stock for the momment.

 

I sure as hell want one of them 8800 320mb GFX cards.
Man iv got a hard-on for so many PC games the now.
Fart Cry 2 with weather effects. I want some of that.
And COD 4: Modern Warfare. If its good, I wont need to buy Battlefield 2 again. I like modern combat, thats why I aint touching BF 2047 or Tiberian wars with a barge pole. (Tempted to buy C&C Generals atm).
I like a serious modern combat games, thenon the flip side I like to fun it up with shits and giggles playing madcap shoot em ups like UT and Quake.

EDITED: 18 Oct 2007 23:10 by USERNAME
From: Mal (BAD)18 Oct 2007 23:20
To: Username 10 of 21

I would consider 2GB of RAM an absolute minimum these days.

 

You'll almost certainly get better performance with 2GB of RAM and a marginally slower processor than a faster process with 1GB of RAM.

From: Username18 Oct 2007 23:54
To: Mal (BAD) 11 of 21

I was waiting for that.
Im still on XP you see, with nothing in the Notification area on boot-up. So im talking about only 100mb upon bootup to the millions out there including my dad, who used more than double that on bootup.
I will wait for jimlad Vista, then maybe buy more RAM. I dont know how good Dual Channel is meant to be.

From: ANT_THOMAS19 Oct 2007 00:52
To: Username 12 of 21
Wait for Jimlad Vista? It's been around for ages!
From: Username19 Oct 2007 00:58
To: ANT_THOMAS 13 of 21
Fuck Vista anyways. Its slow in DX9 and slooowwwer in DX 10.
From: Mal (BAD)19 Oct 2007 08:33
To: Username 14 of 21

1GB - 100MB = 0.9GB left for games
2GB - 200MB = 1.8GB left for games
2GB - 100MB = 1.9GB left for games

 

The 100MB not being used on startup becomes largely insignificant if you have 2GB of RAM. I can guarantee that all those games you mentioned will perform a lot better if you buy 2GB of RAM.

 

My computer (running XP pro) has 3GB installed which made an enormous difference over the 1GB I had installed previously. I can highly recommend it.

 

And I really wouldn't bother with vista yet.

From: Dave!!19 Oct 2007 09:10
To: Username 15 of 21

I've run XP with 1GB of RAM and with 2GB of RAM and can state that many modern games run far better with 2GB than 1GB. You get faster level loading, less stuttering in games, etc. For a lot of modern games now such as Bioshock, 1GB is the minimum requirement with 2GB being recommended. Plus RAM is hardly expensive...

 

CPU wise, at lower price points then there's little between Intel and AMD other than Intel's CPUs being more overclockable. True Intel's higher-end chips leave AMD well behind at the moment, but for a £100 or less CPU, both are worth considering if you're not planning on overclocking the system.

 

My advice would be to go for 2GB of RAM, a mid-range mobo (say £50-£75 or so) and then look at getting the best CPU you can with what's left. Don't forget that you may also need to replace your power supply if your old one doesn't have the newer 24pin ATX plug on it.

 

I'd agree with sticking with XP for now personally though.

From: Username19 Oct 2007 10:23
To: Dave!! 16 of 21

Show a piccy.
Im using a 550W (shudders) Q Tec, I bought about a year ago (Only been used solid for 9 months).
I thought my only concern would be PCI-E power cables. But I can remidy that with a molex adpater.
PSUs are so bleedin expensive I see. Not for me.
Iv been looking at a 2.6 64 X2 CPU 2mb cache.
Whats the deal with 1000mhz FBS CPUs and no mobos or ram to support it.

From: Username19 Oct 2007 10:26
To: Dave!! 17 of 21

GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB <- nice!

 

What games/demos you been throwing at it?
What Res you playing it?
What games you been enjoying atm?

From: Dave!!19 Oct 2007 11:43
To: Username 18 of 21

Should be alright then I'd have thought as it's new enough. It's also certainly powerful enough. My system has a decent 500w supply for instance and runs fine.

 

Regarding 1,066MHz FSB CPUs, there are motherboards around to support them?! The RAM also doesn't have to match the FSB speed these days - particularly not on AMD systems, although faster is obviously better.

 

Graphics wise, my card runs nicely. Handles Oblivion at 1280x960 with all the detail cranked up and it's smooth. Can also play Bioshock at that res with most of the detail fairly high. I've recently played HL2: Episode 2 with all detail to maximum and AA/Ansitropic Filtering cranked up and it's run nice and smoothly. So yes. It's a nice card :)

From: Username19 Oct 2007 11:53
To: Dave!! 19 of 21
How come you aint bought a TFT yet?
From: Dave!!19 Oct 2007 12:03
To: Username 20 of 21
No need to. My 19" CRT is big enough and works fine. If it dies, or I move house and don't have enough room for it then I may replace it. For now though, why replace something which works and does its job?