Smart anti-Clinton ad

From: Manthorp19 Mar 2007 23:23
To: ALL1 of 19
Handsomely done, and very Mac Generation. He's making the running. She'd better get a fucking good PR company in, and soon, if he's not going to saunter into the Democratic nomination.
From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)20 Mar 2007 00:39
To: Manthorp 2 of 19
It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It doesn't even attempt to substantiate its apparent premise. It's utterly mindless. Very Mac generation.
From: Manthorp20 Mar 2007 08:01
To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) 3 of 19
But when has substance played any part in effective political broadcast, particularly in America? Grasping and holding attention, the association of your candidate with a positive vibe and the tarring of your opponent with a negative one, is everything.
From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)20 Mar 2007 10:55
To: Manthorp 4 of 19
I know that, and yet somehow the complete lack of sense still annoys me.
From: Mouse20 Mar 2007 11:05
To: Manthorp 5 of 19
The format's familiar, has it been done somewhere else before?
From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)20 Mar 2007 11:10
To: Mouse 6 of 19
If you're seriously asking, it's the famous Apple "1984" ad, screened during the 1984 Superbowl to launch the first Apple Mac.
From: Mouse20 Mar 2007 11:17
To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) 7 of 19
Ahhhhh sorry. Not enough coffee yet. And I was only 5 at the time :$
From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)20 Mar 2007 11:24
To: Mouse 8 of 19
I have age. :((
From: andy20 Mar 2007 14:55
To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) 9 of 19
in a multimedia module i had this year they showed that original apple ad in the first lecture, and some definitely not nerdy great lad sitting near me mouthed every word perfectly in sync. and with all the right intonations. fantastic stuff.
From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)20 Mar 2007 15:32
To: andy 10 of 19
You just sat there wishing you were him, didn't you?
From: Manthorp20 Mar 2007 15:58
To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) 11 of 19
Not as much as I have :{) >:-(
From: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE)20 Mar 2007 16:24
To: Manthorp 12 of 19
I find great solace in that thought.
From: Manthorp20 Mar 2007 16:28
To: THERE IS NO GOD BUT (RENDLE) 13 of 19
Yes, but look at me. Someday all this horror will be yours.
From: Sulkpot20 Mar 2007 18:01
To: Manthorp 14 of 19

I can see why you like it, and why it is successful as an ad, but it's not good satire. It would be nice if prospective leaders of the free world had something to say about other candidates other than "they're not me". It's not as if it would be difficult to pick up on Hilary's potential problems and make an ad just as slick, but with some seed of wit in it.

 

And as my appalling racist grandmother, who is still metaphorically alive in the US today, even in the Democratic Party, would say: he's got a touch of the tar brush about him, that man.

From: Manthorp20 Mar 2007 18:16
To: Sulkpot 15 of 19
quote:
he's got a touch of the tar brush about him, that man.


But only a touch; which is what gives him a fighting chance at the nomination. He's much more white than black; creepily so.

With regard to the ad, I think it's pitched just right for this early in the campaign: slick and clever, and addressing a very specific and, for the Obama campaign, absolutely bullseye demographic. It just vaguely implies that Clinton is distant, patronising and imperious, picking up on her key presentational flaws.

The specifics will come a lot later. And that's where Obama's campaign managers have to pray that he doesn't have any major skeletons in his cupboard. They don't have to be bigger than Whitewater to knock him off-track: just more salacious or grubby.
From: Sulkpot20 Mar 2007 19:42
To: Manthorp 16 of 19
You are correct, wiseman. But I'm still holding out for Boris Johnson to put his hat into the ring.

"Cripes! Is this thing on? Oh. Hullo, America. Jolly nice day isn't it. Isn't the world an altogether generally pleasant place?"

<Washington asplode />
From: Manthorp20 Mar 2007 20:08
To: Sulkpot 17 of 19
I 'd like to see him putting a hat into his ring. Especially something ambitious like a busby. Now that would be entrtainment.
From: Sulkpot20 Mar 2007 20:27
To: Manthorp 18 of 19
You are a bad man who has spent too much time with Greg, and has forgotten that normal folk can't fit objects like hats or K6 telephone kiosks up their arses.
From: Manthorp20 Mar 2007 20:42
To: Sulkpot 19 of 19
Both of your points are entirely reasonable.