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From: ANT_THOMAS31 Dec 2006 18:12
To: Bryan (TWISTER) 7 of 36
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I completely agree, it all seems a little suspect so far. I guess time will tell.
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From: Bryan (TWISTER)31 Dec 2006 18:14
To: ANT_THOMAS 8 of 36
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I guess time will tell.


Indeed.

He'll probably turn up in South America in about 20 years or something! ;P
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From: Username31 Dec 2006 18:30
To: JonCooper 9 of 36
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dam right
internet
so you got no self control like me

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From: Username31 Dec 2006 18:31
To: ANT_THOMAS 10 of 36
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PARANOID TIMES you non believer

 

i hate cunts like you that dont believe anything

EDITED: 31 Dec 2006 18:32 by USERNAME
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From: Bryan (TWISTER)31 Dec 2006 18:35
To: Username 11 of 36
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PARANOID TIMES


Have you actually watched this flick?

It's suspect to say the least.

Dodgy filming, and what was that around SHs neck BEFORE the noose was put on? You never, as far as I can see, actually see him hanging, kicking and shitting himself. At the end is he hanging or is he on the floor, I can't tell.

If this is such an historic event why ain't it been filmed better? I want to see the body.
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From: JonCooper31 Dec 2006 18:38
To: Username 12 of 36
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I don't belive you hate cunts like him.
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From: spinning_plates31 Dec 2006 18:51
To: Bryan (TWISTER) 13 of 36
31598.13 In reply to 31598.11
If someone is hung correctly it should snap their neck and kill them immediately.
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From: Stoo31 Dec 2006 19:39
To: Bryan (TWISTER) 14 of 36
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I'm not watching it until a High Definition Special Edition gets released with full DTS soundtrack. >:-(
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From: Bryan (TWISTER)31 Dec 2006 20:01
To: spinning_plates 15 of 36
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If someone is hung correctly it should snap their neck and kill them immediately.


I don't know the technicalities of how someone dies when they are hung, but I still think that video is of insufficient quality to catergorically prove he is dead.

We can live in hope I suppose.
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From: Stoo31 Dec 2006 20:07
To: Bryan (TWISTER) 16 of 36
31598.16 In reply to 31598.15
He's dead. A fall of that height would have damn near decapitated him considering his rough body mass.

Hanging, if done right, snaps the neck and severs the spinal cord from the base of the brain - there is no way on earth he could have possibly survived that and, based on the lack of any struggling, it was instantaneous.
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From: Username31 Dec 2006 21:59
To: Bryan (TWISTER) 17 of 36
31598.17 In reply to 31598.11

look, i watched it once, i paused it once
i never want to watch it again
he wasnt in the floor he was hanging
did you not see the steps they climbed?
i paused it right at the end when it was pitch black and someone to a flash photograph

 

thats the first and last time im wathcing that

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From: Username31 Dec 2006 21:59
To: JonCooper 18 of 36
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your right i dont
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From: Username31 Dec 2006 22:00
To: spinning_plates 19 of 36
31598.19 In reply to 31598.13
right and your the expert on how to hang people????
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From: Username31 Dec 2006 22:00
To: Stoo 20 of 36
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happy new stu
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From: spinning_plates31 Dec 2006 23:48
To: Stoo 21 of 36
31598.21 In reply to 31598.16

Yeah it's not like Robin Hood Price of Thieves where he's dangling for ages, although it might be, it's not if it's done "right". Not that I agree with it anyway.

 

Oh and yeah I meant hanged, not hung, obviously.

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From: spinning_plates31 Dec 2006 23:49
To: Username 22 of 36
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Hardly an expert, no, but I have heard that somewhere and it sounds about right.

 

It seems that it would depend on what method was used and it didn't seem like a long drop so based on

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging

 

I would have to wonder how effective it would be.

 

I reiterate that I am not in favour of using the death penalty anyway.

EDITED: 31 Dec 2006 23:53 by SPINNING_PLATES
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From: JonCooper31 Dec 2006 23:53
To: Username 23 of 36
31598.23 In reply to 31598.18
:D

quote: Ant
... I wasn't sure ...


quote: Trig
i hate cunts like you that dont believe anything


quote: Me
I don't belive you hate cunts like him.


quote: Trig
your right i dont


:D - nice one Trig - :D
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From: koswix 2 Jan 2007 13:41
To: spinning_plates 24 of 36
31598.24 In reply to 31598.22
Isn't the reason the guilotine (sp) was invented because hanging is not quick and painless and was reserved, in France, for the poor, the rich being beheaded by axe instead.
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From: spinning_plates 2 Jan 2007 20:16
To: koswix 25 of 36
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The device derives its name from Joseph-Ignace Guillotin, a French doctor and member of the Revolutionary National Assembly, on whose suggestion it was introduced. Dr. Guillotin proposed the use of a mechanical device to carry out the death penalty. The basis for his recommendation is believed to have been his perception that it was a humane form of execution, contrasting with the methods used in pre-revolutionary, ancien régime (old regime) France. In France, before the guillotine, members of the nobility were beheaded with a sword or axe, while commoners were usually hanged, or more gruesome methods of executions were used (the wheel, burning at the stake, etc.). In the case of decapitation, it sometimes took repeated blows to sever the head completely. The condemned or the family of the condemned would sometimes pay the executioner to ensure that the blade was sharp in order to provide for a quick and relatively painless death. The guillotine was thus perceived to deliver an immediate death without risk of misses. Furthermore, having only one method of execution was seen as an expression of equality among citizens. The guillotine was adopted as the official means of execution on 20 March 1792. The guillotine was from then on the only legal execution method in France until the abolition of the death penalty in 1981, apart from certain crimes against the security of the state, which entailed execution by firing squad.


So I guess you're right, although it doesn't say much about hanging. I still say though that if it's done according to the book then hanging should be near instantaneous.
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From: koswix 2 Jan 2007 21:41
To: spinning_plates 26 of 36
31598.26 In reply to 31598.25

<quote >because it was intended to be sufficient to break the person's neck, causing immediate paralysis and immobilization (and perhaps immediate unconsciousness--though this matter is questioned).</quote>
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging#Methods_of_judicial_hanging

 


Although it also says it's considered the most humane form of capital punishment by medical people. Although that's a bit like being the best if the worst.

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