I believe it's worse because firstly, a lot more people died, and secondly the Brighton bomb was an attack against a government rather than an attack against ordinary civilians. I'm not saying the Brighton bomb was right, it was deplorable.

 

Similaly with 9/11, most people think of the twin towers. Lots less think of the attack on the Pentagon because that could be constituted as a legitimate military/government target, even if it was a plane full of civilians which was used for the attack.

 

Ultimately, I'm with LP on this one. Does America's foregin policy mean that we should remember or grieve for those civilians who died and their families any less? How would you feel if a terrorist had killed someone you knew? Would it be any more acceptable just because our government's foreign policy is bullshit?

 

Had they lived, many of the victims of 9/11 probably would have been against America's role in Iraq. America is asking for it a lot of the time with its foreign policy, as is Britain to a degree these days. But targetted attacks designed to murder as many ordinary civilians as possible? Regardless of whether it's Al Quaeda, America, Israel, Iraqi insurgents etc, it's never even remotely condonable.

Where were you on the night of July 28th when Nguku Muntabae was assaulted on Paddington Green?

 

See? It all ties in.

my concern is that the US thinks it's so much worse when it happens to them, the Brighton bombing was only one incident in a very long campaign of terrorisim that was mostly funded by the USA and in particular by New Yorkers

when they supported and funded the poor Irish against the nasty tyrannical Brits it was ok

but when it's the poor Iraquis or Afganis against the nasty and tyrannical USA that cannot be acceptable

I note that it was proved last week, to the satisfaction of the US Senate, that Iraq did not support, fund or even trust Al Quaeda - so, no WMD & no Terrorists (then) yet we get to bomb the fuck out of them because we don't approve of their leader ~ when are we off to bomb Mugabe ?

Quite right. I however don't give a damn about the US in general, but I do care about the needless death of civilians wherever it is. 9/11 was an atrocity, but so are most terrorist attacks and a lot of attacks by the US and particulaly recently, Israel.

 

I never feel it OK to even try and justify any of them by thinking for example "What Israel did in Lebanon was bad, therefore that suicide bomber was justified in blowing up that Israeli market place" because the people who die and suffer are just civilians caught up in the mess created by their governments.

I was only 9 at the time, yet I couldn't get away from the whole Rwandan massacre thing, just a couple of years after Bosnia.

Fact of the matter is, the attacks on the World Trade Centre wouldn't be such a 'disaster' if it hadn't have happened in America. The damage was more psychological than collateral.

What's the point in remembering the dead if we don't change the present and the future?

The bit about drinking cider and eating mushrooms: why the "fuck you"? I thought you'd admitted as much. Nowt wrong with it. Though being reformed is undoubtedly working out better for you. Good stuff.

 

(waits to see how you'll contrive to find offence in something I've said...)

 

September 11th - I'm disinclined to be cynical. Shame it always gets the same response, I agree. Though at the point I heard about it on the morning of 11/9/01, I have to admit that my first thought wasn't for the people dying in NY, it was "oh shit, this is just the excuse Bush has been waiting for to declare war on the rest of the world".

<whatever the word is> desensitized. If you see enough of something, it becomes numb and meaningless after the, 1 millionth time you see it.
Desensitized.

*inured

"There's no s(dies)

If only she would.

She'll outlive you, you ephemeral insect. Kept alive by the blood of the innocent !! :-&

When this happened I didn't really know anything about anything. Perhaps I still don't. But I do remember thinking "this was not accident" when my boss's wife came into the unit and said to put the TV on, sort of suggesting it was. After that it just made me want to know more about wht the fuck is going on.

At least you don't have to live through all the "remember!" crap that's going on over here.

I know how you feel. When Lockerbie and the space shuttle disaster happened I had no idea iether.
ALl I can remeber was the sick jocks getting banded around at the secondary school.

You've gone too far this time. How can you possibly misspell "joke" as "jock"?