Does your arse not get extrodinarily distended from you crawling up there so often?

 

lp: "post"

 

forum: "I see your point but....."

 

lp: "Disagree with me will you? Well fuck that! I'm off to the Specials. They need my particular brand of tolerance. I'm fair, me."

 

You know why I don't mind the 9/11 commemorations, or the fact that they're even called that? It reminds my family that my birthday is coming. I should be your Police Chief by now.

PCs have hurt me bad. In the pocket and in the mind.

 

They will always be for geeks. They are hurting society bad. Ok for the work place, yes. But NOWHERE ELSE.
Might as well ad dthe internet while were there.

 

The internet is about me and only for me. Talking is about wanting to meet a face, that you show willing to talk to. But in real life circumstance.
IE in a pub or club. What exactly is MySpace all about?

 

Why has society beginning to use in full flow the internet? What is it here for. Why do we need it?

It's not a daft question, it's a genuine one.


And we don't really commemorate the 5th of november - it's now essentially just an excuse for pyromaniacs to have fun.

Where were you in 1994?

Sat in a park drinking white lightning, eating magic mushrooms and generally smacked off his tits before he became born again?

Where were you in Christmas 1914? :Y :-$

 

Sorry, LP. I think I'm with the piss-takers here. But not Trig.

more people are dying now from the effects of clearing up 'ground zero'* than died on the day - I find that worse as it could have been prevented with the provision of masks etc.

and why is 11/9/01 any worse than say 12/10/84

Actually, no, it seems to go.

 

Paul: "post"

 

others: "cynical & typically 'teh' reply"

 

Paul: "gets wound up"

 

others: "mentions the fact that paul wants to join the police, as if that is some kind of reason for Paul to not have a reason for getting pissed off"

 

 

 

You know, other than mentioning my attempts to join the police in a matter of fact way I've not actually said anything that relates at all to it since I came back here, but people keep seemingly mentioning it to me like as if my having an opinion about things or getting wound up with geeks on the internet is in any way related to the way I would be with a uniform on. I've not said anything that would suggest that I would not be fair when dealing with people & it sucks that I can't have an argument without someone saying "mleh mleh special police, mleh" FUCK YOU!

 

Saif: In 1994 I was 15 & not really that fussed about anything outside my circle of friends & more worried about what band I would discover next or when my next band practice was. Sorry.

 

Also:

 

"Sat in a park drinking white lightning, eating magic mushrooms and generally smacked of his tits before he became born again?"

 

Seriously, fuck you. This is more of the same. I chose to cut out drink & smoke & the rest and I dont give a fuck if others do. That has nothing to do with my opinion. And I never took smack.

 

I came back last month (after being pissed off one too many times) to see if any of the people who I wondered about & enjoyed the ramblings of were still here & still ok & they seem to be in a fashion, but unfortunately the people who are self important & cynical arses seem to still be cynical & self important arses (& I am one too, but I realised that this place seemed to make it worse)

Just on the Police thing: get used to it. No-one gets introduced to new people as "This is Steve, he's an account director" in normal life, but "This is Bernard, he's a copper" happens all the time.

Because you're an over-sensitive little crybaby?

 

EDIT: other people had already done the copper thing; didn't want to be redundant.

lol

I believe it's worse because firstly, a lot more people died, and secondly the Brighton bomb was an attack against a government rather than an attack against ordinary civilians. I'm not saying the Brighton bomb was right, it was deplorable.

 

Similaly with 9/11, most people think of the twin towers. Lots less think of the attack on the Pentagon because that could be constituted as a legitimate military/government target, even if it was a plane full of civilians which was used for the attack.

 

Ultimately, I'm with LP on this one. Does America's foregin policy mean that we should remember or grieve for those civilians who died and their families any less? How would you feel if a terrorist had killed someone you knew? Would it be any more acceptable just because our government's foreign policy is bullshit?

 

Had they lived, many of the victims of 9/11 probably would have been against America's role in Iraq. America is asking for it a lot of the time with its foreign policy, as is Britain to a degree these days. But targetted attacks designed to murder as many ordinary civilians as possible? Regardless of whether it's Al Quaeda, America, Israel, Iraqi insurgents etc, it's never even remotely condonable.

Where were you on the night of July 28th when Nguku Muntabae was assaulted on Paddington Green?

 

See? It all ties in.

my concern is that the US thinks it's so much worse when it happens to them, the Brighton bombing was only one incident in a very long campaign of terrorisim that was mostly funded by the USA and in particular by New Yorkers

when they supported and funded the poor Irish against the nasty tyrannical Brits it was ok

but when it's the poor Iraquis or Afganis against the nasty and tyrannical USA that cannot be acceptable

I note that it was proved last week, to the satisfaction of the US Senate, that Iraq did not support, fund or even trust Al Quaeda - so, no WMD & no Terrorists (then) yet we get to bomb the fuck out of them because we don't approve of their leader ~ when are we off to bomb Mugabe ?

Quite right. I however don't give a damn about the US in general, but I do care about the needless death of civilians wherever it is. 9/11 was an atrocity, but so are most terrorist attacks and a lot of attacks by the US and particulaly recently, Israel.

 

I never feel it OK to even try and justify any of them by thinking for example "What Israel did in Lebanon was bad, therefore that suicide bomber was justified in blowing up that Israeli market place" because the people who die and suffer are just civilians caught up in the mess created by their governments.

I was only 9 at the time, yet I couldn't get away from the whole Rwandan massacre thing, just a couple of years after Bosnia.

Fact of the matter is, the attacks on the World Trade Centre wouldn't be such a 'disaster' if it hadn't have happened in America. The damage was more psychological than collateral.

What's the point in remembering the dead if we don't change the present and the future?

The bit about drinking cider and eating mushrooms: why the "fuck you"? I thought you'd admitted as much. Nowt wrong with it. Though being reformed is undoubtedly working out better for you. Good stuff.

 

(waits to see how you'll contrive to find offence in something I've said...)

 

September 11th - I'm disinclined to be cynical. Shame it always gets the same response, I agree. Though at the point I heard about it on the morning of 11/9/01, I have to admit that my first thought wasn't for the people dying in NY, it was "oh shit, this is just the excuse Bush has been waiting for to declare war on the rest of the world".