Flogging Dead Horses

From: patch17 Jul 2008 01:09
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 27 of 56
Read all that and tell me he's not talking bollocks.
From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)17 Jul 2008 02:31
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 28 of 56
That sort of post won't get you very far on this forum. You're listing lots of unconnected things and implying by your tone that they add up to a point. But you're leaving the point to the readers' imagination (in order to avoid being argued down) and suggesting that you will be proved right by future events.

That kinda stuff works on stupid people. Unfortunately this forum has a disgustingly high proportion of smart people. So unless you talk about specifics and actually set forth a reasoned argument, you're fucked.

So here are some questions for you. Please answer in normal English.

  • What have sunken cities got to do with anything?
  • What have civilisations and planets got to do with anything?
  • What have the Mayans got to do with anything? (with the sort of foreknowledge people attribute to the Mayans you'd kinda expect they'd have put up a better fight really)
  • What 'races' are 'lost'?
  • Which extinct beings do you mean?
  • By what mechanism was Nostradamus able to know the future?
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From: Drew (X3N0PH0N)17 Jul 2008 08:03
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 33 of 56
Ok, now that's interesting. I agree that a lot of mythic writing tends to point to something different to our current understanding of world history and I wouldn't be surprised if something closer to the mythic turns out to be true.

It's fairly established now that the human population was reduced to a few thousand a long time ago which kinda explains the gap where the indo-european culture/language is supposed to be. Or explains why all our stuff has common roots, rather. I wouldn't be surprised if those shared myths are talking about real events.
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From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)17 Jul 2008 08:23
To: patch 35 of 56
They're all apocalyptic events - big natural disasters and the increase of war.
It's all the build-up to Armageddon, or might be (but probably isn't).

And he's now expanded onto a more general scope of [future] extinctions, not just the one from the Bible.

Whether or not it's bollocks isn't relevant to whether it's interesting.
EDITED: 17 Jul 2008 08:26 by BOUGHTONP
From: 99% of gargoyles look like (MR_BASTARD)17 Jul 2008 08:52
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 36 of 56
I rather like the theory that Atlantis was destroyed by Santorini.
From: patch17 Jul 2008 09:08
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 37 of 56
Yes, fine. But you can only see that connection now that he's started explaining himself. Before that, it was a load of unconnected links. Which was my point.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)17 Jul 2008 09:22
To: patch 38 of 56
No, the connection came with the (original) thread's title, "53's Horseman Thread" (as in the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse) and was confirmed with the first couple of URLs.


Anyway, I'm not going to continue going on about this; if you want to, may I recommend using a lemon. :)
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From: koswix17 Jul 2008 12:03
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 40 of 56
You should try Zattoo, it gives you all sorts of crazy TV channels that you wouldn't normally see. I particularly like Russia Today
From: JonCooper17 Jul 2008 13:46
To: Peter (BOUGHTONP) 41 of 56
now he's expanded a bit it's very interesting, which is all we were asking for

we have a bit of a history here of not responding well to uncommented links

and I actually think that's a good thing, I don't have the inclination to look at the latest youtube offering or most 'humorous' links
EDITED: 17 Jul 2008 13:48 by JONCOOPER
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From: koswix17 Jul 2008 17:54
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 44 of 56
Not that I necessarily agree with Patch's assertions on thread/post structure, you seem to have a weird idea that he's some pro-bush anti-free speech American type. He's British currently living in Australia (I think?). And he hasn't disagreed with you or your ideas, just asked you to present them in a slightly more accessible form.
From: dave (10_ROGUE)17 Jul 2008 18:25
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 45 of 56

When I saw this thread I clicked on the first few links and my thoughts where as follows:

 

Earthquakes.
China
Russia selling arms to Iran? No shit they've been doing that for decades.
Close thread read something more interesting.

 

I think Patch's point was that while 1 random link might draw interest a thread full of them is quickly dismissed as random crap not worth any attention.

EDITED: 17 Jul 2008 18:27 by 10_ROGUE
From: JonCooper17 Jul 2008 18:50
To: Al JunioR (53NORTH) 46 of 56
Hahaha - you really think this has anything to do with "the current US administration" ?

This is a predominantly Brit forum, we really couldn't give a stuff if you post pro or anti Bush links, I'd think we'd tend to lean anti-Bush if pushed but not really bothered much either way

It's not a question of banning free expression, almost no-one has ever been banned or censored here, post what you like when you like, all we were asking for was a bit of context - which you've done now

I'm well interested in this comet thingy and what it might do in 2012, the possibilities of what it's done in the past etc - but (as mentioned earlier) there are 1000s of earthquakes and volcano eruptions all the time, posting a link to just one, out of context, means very little.

also - do you know Jim Lynch? he posts a lot like you do.