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General Election 2019
From: Manthorp
10 Dec 2019 09:40
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)
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I agree with Ant, unfortunately. The Tories won some time ago by pressing home the myth that they will make Brexit go away. Labour's more rational approach hasn't the same strength.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)
10 Dec 2019 13:47
To: Manthorp
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The media pile-on hasn't helped, has it.
From: Matt
10 Dec 2019 18:06
To: ANT_THOMAS
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Not that they only don't give a fuck, they are also claiming it is
fake
despite the hospital already apologising for the mistreatment of the boy.
From: william (WILLIAMA)
10 Dec 2019 18:40
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)
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The media pile-on has to be experienced to be believed. BBC News has given up all pretence of impartiality (although obviously they do actually
pretend
to be impartial) and whenever possible they lead on almost unchallenged anti-labour stories. Often these are padded out with a piece-to-camera by Laura Kuenssberg whose journalism consists mainly of incisive statements such as 'there is no doubt that...' followed by some contentious claim that Corbyn is, for instance, a liability to Labour's electoral chances. Her evidence is commonly that 'this is what one hears on the doorsteps...' which meaningless anecdotal evidence is exactly what Tory politicians have told her - or she has cleverly thought up with her own brain. This is an almost verbatim account of what she said on the BBC prime 6 o'clock news today.
It's why I prefer alternative news sources in the UK. Channel 4 is a commercial channel but was established with public funding and has a charter that includes due-impartiality in news reportage. It is far better than the BBC but has recently been threatened by the Tory Party. They held a leaders debate on the environment that Johnson and Farage wouldn't attend. Channel 4 empty-seated them with melting ice-sculptures. I even prefer sources like Sky News, because at least they aren't pretending to be even handed.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)
10 Dec 2019 20:20
To: Matt
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https://bylinetimes.com/2019/12/10/trolls-sock-puppets-and-useful-idiots-an-anatomy-of-an-election-disinformation-campaign/
Quote:
The failure to realise that hiding your face does not make you invisible, or that stealing a reporter’s phone does not make the report go away, suggests that – under pressure – the leader of the Conservative Party has the
social cognitive abilities of a four-year-old
.
From: william (WILLIAMA)
10 Dec 2019 22:08
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)
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And the sad thing is that it probably won't make a damn bit of difference. (Nice article btw).
Stupidity, lies, dirty tricks and exploitation have been the mechanics of power since forever, but the management of this has been a particular skill of the Labour party in the C20th and C21st starting with Jim Callaghan and finding its champion in Neil Kinnock. Whether things would have changed with John Smith is a moot point, but they certainly didn't with Tony Blair. I'm afraid it's quite understandable if Boris Johnson follows the parallel evolution of Trumpism. It's too depressing to think about.
If you ever want to find out about how Kinnock set about stamping out any success left wing politics might have had in modern government in the UK, try Googling Lol Duffy and the tragedy that ended with Angela Eagle becoming a high flyer in the party.
From: Peter (BOUGHTONP)
10 Dec 2019 22:35
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)
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So you're saying Boris Johnson is one of those people who perform
better
under pressure...
From: Manthorp
11 Dec 2019 08:42
To: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)
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No, it really hasn't. The BBC's lead political correspondent, Laura Kuenssberg, in particular, has been openly partisan. Whilst it may serve her short term interests, in the long term, it may come bite her in the bum.
From: Manthorp
11 Dec 2019 08:46
To: Matt
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My twitter handle made
the national news
in that particular scrum, when a friend - passing on the shit that was going down on FB - was accused of being a right wing sock puppet.
From: CHYRON (DSMITHHFX)
11 Dec 2019 13:53
To: william (WILLIAMA)
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Yeah, I don't know the gory details of their past missteps, but I prefer to blame "left wing politics" becoming the persona non grata / third rail of certain, um 'democracies' (e.g. US, UK, and yes, Canada), on media conglomeration, and the rise of billionaire feudalism, at the expense of all life on earth (eventually... soon -ish). This UK GE, and the USian impeachment process, are both part and parcel of an existential struggle between human greed and human survival --> two go in, one comes out. And I'm fucking scared.
:-@